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June 25, 2005

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SrI:

Dear Sri Sandeep IyengAr :

Sri GuruvAyUrappan is a Vara PrasAdhi

( KaNN KaNDa dhaivam ) . It is striking that

AzhwArs have not performed MangaLAsAsanam

to this and many other temples , which are well known .

There have been all kinds of explanations given:

..

(1) This is a Temple for the Bachelor KrishNa and

Sri Devi is missing . AzhwArs wont visit a temple

without Sri Devi etc . The answer to that question is :

Sri Devi never leaves the Lord's body .

(2) There is a big sannidhi for Bhagavathi . AzhwArs wont go

to a temple , where there is anya dhaivams other than the Lord .

The answer ot that question is : There are specific temples , where

VishNu Dhurgai is present , which have been acknowledged by

the AzhwArs during MangaLAsAsanam to make it a Dhivya DEsam .

This example is provided by ThirukkovalUr . Modern day AchAryAs

have visited however GuruvAyUr Temple . We do not when specific

sannidhi for MalayALa Bhagavathi was established there .

(3) Tantric worship is performed there . VaishNavite Aagama

worship is not performed there and other Dhivya dEsams

with AzhwAr MangaLAsAsanams . These temples might have had

PaancharAthra or VaikAnasa worship in AzhwAr's times .

(4) Only two of the 12 AzhwArs have performed MangaLAsAsanam

of the 13 MalainAttu ( Keralaa /ParasurAma KshEthra) dhivya dEsams .

One is Swamy NammAzhwAr , whose mother came from one of

the Kerala Dhivya dEsams . The other is the peripatetic Thiruumangai

AzhwAr , who performed MangaLAsAsanam on 80 plus dhivya dEsams .

One AzhwAr performed MangalAsAsanam for Lord RanganathA alone .

(5) The fact that the AzhwArs performed MangaLAsAsanam or not

does not connect with the history of the temples being today's major

center's of worship or not . Cases in point : Nilaa ThingaL ThuNDatthu

EmperumAn inside EkAmrEswarar Temple (?) in Kaanchi ; Talaicchanga

NaaNmathiyam in the middle of rice fields of ChOLa Naadu etc .

One can cite many dhivya dEsams , where geo proximity , accidents of

time and place ( IndhaLUr) led to the building up of the list of 108

dhivya dEsams .Some dhivyadEsams recieved more than 100 Paasurams

from one AzhwAr . Others recieved one Paasuram or are mentioned in

Passing . Ancient temples like Srirangam and ThiruvEngaDam recieved

a lot of attention form AzhwArs . The purpose of AzhwArs' avathArams

are to be seen in the context of protecting VisishtAdhvaitham from

the onslaughts of avaidhika Mathams and their Bhagavath anubhavam

during that process took the form of the immortal Paasurams on

specific temples that they visited physically or otherwise .

The summary is that the list of 106 dhivya dEsams that we

can visit today as a result of AzhwAr MangalAsAsanams is

a subset of many temples about which the AzhwArs knew about

but did not compose paasurams to qualify them to join the list of

Dhivya Desam .

Finally and on a personal note , I have had a divine encounter at

GuruvAyUr that established in my mind about the power of

GuruvAyUrappan as a Vara PrasAdhi .

The note got long but there is a lot to reflect on dhivya dEsams

and pertinent AzhwAr MangaLAsAsanams .

V.Sadagopan

-

" rsandeep82 " <rsandeep82

Friday, June 24, 2005 11:30 AM

kerala divya desams

> Dear members,

> id like to know why guruvayoor is not part of the kerala divya

> desams,considering the fact that it is the most famous vishnu temple

> there?

> Thanks

> Sandeep.S.Iyengar

June 26, 2005

Swamin,

A real good piece of explanation for the divya desams, If proximity, or anya devatha or

anyother reason for our great alwars to do mangalasasanam, I can give you that when

kalazhagar and koodalazhagar are in divya desam, we dont find the navaneethakrishnan

and thirumagalam srivasaperumal sannidi in divya desam.

Of this navaneetha krishnan koil is only next street from Koodal, thirumangalam is between

the kalazhagar and koodal.

So for whatever reason the alwars have not done mangala sasanam for these temples we

can take them as divya desams with our acharyas grace due to the historical nature of these temples.

Infact we all have to make a good list of all temples in TN, Kerala, Karnataka and AP to

for committiees locally for all these temples nityaradanam.

dasan/raghavanSrinivasan Rangaswamy <r_sv wrote:

Note: forwarded message attached. __ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Oppiliappan From: Sadagopan <sgopanFri, 24 Jun 2005 20:51:12 -0400 Your question GuruvAyur not being a kerala divya desamSrI:Dear Sri Sandeep IyengAr :Sri GuruvAyUrappan is a Vara PrasAdhi( KaNN KaNDa dhaivam ) . It is striking thatAzhwArs have not performed MangaLAsAsanamto this and many other temples , which are well known .There have been all kinds of explanations given:.(1) This is a Temple for the Bachelor KrishNa andSri Devi is missing . AzhwArs wont visit a templewithout Sri Devi etc . The answer to that question is :Sri Devi never leaves the Lord's body .(2) There is a big sannidhi for Bhagavathi . AzhwArs wont goto a temple , where there is anya

dhaivams other than the Lord .The answer ot that question is : There are specific temples , whereVishNu Dhurgai is present , which have been acknowledged bythe AzhwArs during MangaLAsAsanam to make it a Dhivya DEsam .This example is provided by ThirukkovalUr . Modern day AchAryAshave visited however GuruvAyUr Temple . We do not when specificsannidhi for MalayALa Bhagavathi was established there .(3) Tantric worship is performed there . VaishNavite Aagamaworship is not performed there and other Dhivya dEsamswith AzhwAr MangaLAsAsanams . These temples might have hadPaancharAthra or VaikAnasa worship in AzhwAr's times .(4) Only two of the 12 AzhwArs have performed MangaLAsAsanamof the 13 MalainAttu ( Keralaa /ParasurAma KshEthra) dhivya dEsams .One is Swamy NammAzhwAr , whose mother came from one ofthe Kerala Dhivya dEsams . The other is the peripatetic ThiruumangaiAzhwAr , who performed MangaLAsAsanam on 80 plus

dhivya dEsams .One AzhwAr performed MangalAsAsanam for Lord RanganathA alone .(5) The fact that the AzhwArs performed MangaLAsAsanam or notdoes not connect with the history of the temples being today's major center's of worship or not . Cases in point : Nilaa ThingaL ThuNDatthu EmperumAn inside EkAmrEswarar Temple (?) in Kaanchi ; TalaicchangaNaaNmathiyam in the middle of rice fields of ChOLa Naadu etc .One can cite many dhivya dEsams , where geo proximity , accidents oftime and place ( IndhaLUr) led to the building up of the list of 108dhivya dEsams .Some dhivyadEsams recieved more than 100 Paasuramsfrom one AzhwAr . Others recieved one Paasuram or are mentioned inPassing . Ancient temples like Srirangam and ThiruvEngaDam recieveda lot of attention form AzhwArs . The purpose of AzhwArs' avathAramsare to be seen in the context of protecting VisishtAdhvaitham fromthe onslaughts of avaidhika Mathams and their Bhagavath

anubhavamduring that process took the form of the immortal Paasurams onspecific temples that they visited physically or otherwise .The summary is that the list of 106 dhivya dEsams that wecan visit today as a result of AzhwAr MangalAsAsanams isa subset of many temples about which the AzhwArs knew aboutbut did not compose paasurams to qualify them to join the list ofDhivya Desam .Finally and on a personal note , I have had a divine encounter atGuruvAyUr that established in my mind about the power ofGuruvAyUrappan as a Vara PrasAdhi .The note got long but there is a lot to reflect on dhivya dEsamsand pertinent AzhwAr MangaLAsAsanams .V.Sadagopan- "rsandeep82" Friday, June 24, 2005 11:30 AM kerala divya desams> Dear members,> id like to know why

guruvayoor is not part of the kerala divya> desams,considering the fact that it is the most famous vishnu temple> there?> Thanks> Sandeep.S.Iyengar