bharanyasam

May 30, 2008

Dear Balaji,

This is higher mathematics for adiyen who is still in the " (a+b)Square " level. Let us consult HH and come back.

Regards.

Daasan RR.

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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Balaji Ramanujam <balaji7 wrote:

Dear RR-mama:

Adiyen's understanding is that Bharanyasam assures Moksham (unless of course the 2 apacharams you'd mentioned earlier are committed). So every other " displeasure " that we cause to Sriman Narayana (by violating the shaastras) would at best lead to accumulation of more karma which of course we'd burn in this janma because we're prapannas and there is no carry-over.

Prayaschitha Prapatti is done once again-- for the final time-- to relieve oneslef of all the guilt and the bhaaram out of it and there is nothing more to it.

So if a prapanna who has traveled abroad dies, his remaining karmic-balance is distributed among his " haters " or " apacharis " . But since he's had Bharanyasam he's surely on his way to join the Master, no matter what.

I am reluctant to quote or drag adiyen's acharyan into this but this is my understanding.

--dasan

RR <shrirr

andavan Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:35:28 PMRe: Bharanyasam

Dear Swamin,

Adiyen has said a lot of " practical " things {though largely irrelevant},

Adiyen accepts with all humility that the correct position as per Saastras is to perform " Prayaschitha Prapatthi " after such overseas visits - crossing the seas -

The catch here is that " Prayaschitha Prapatthi " is performed only once in one's lifetime.

Once having performed the " Prayaschitha Prapatthi " , one is forbidden to go abroad by crossing the seas!!

One looks always for an angle,

So the only way out - in this age & times - make as many visits as are necessary in the conduct of your profession,

When the stage comes to call it a day, perform " Prayaschitha Prapatthi " !!

As in the case Arjuna, we always think that we have thought of everything -

BUT the million $ question is - what happens if you reach Acharyan Thiruvadi without perfroming " Prayaschitha Prapatthi " ?

Only Sriman Narayana & our Acharyas can solve this mystery.

Warmest regards.

Daasan RR.

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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM, RR <shrirr (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Swamin,

Adiyen's immediate reaction is - do we need to become that orthodox?

The basic purpose of adiyen's postings was to disabuse some reservations in the minds of many sevarthis about getting Prapatthi performed. If at least a few more SriVaishnavaites are motivated to get Samasrayanam & Prapatthi, adiyen woud have felt utmost gratification.

What about the SriVaishnavaite Scholars who live abroad permanently and send render huge, huge & significant Kainkaryam that has awakened a whole new generation to the tenets of SriVaishnavism? They may end up - ashes to ashes - in their countries of adoption.

To take this query to its logical conclusion, a Brahmin should perform only Unccha Vrithi and not work for a living OR take medical treatment {Vaidhyo Sri Narayana Hari:}, take Vanaprasthasramam & live in forests to meet the day of reckoning etc.,!

Adiyen is not competent to sit in judgement and give answers to such profound issues that agitate the minds of many more sevarthis - not just yourself. In your shoes, adiyen will leave it to Sri Mahalakshmi Thayar & Sriman Narayana and not even think of any Prayachitham.

There is what called as Yuga Dharmam - in Kali everything is turned upside down - one would be advised to follow the basic minimum rituals and also maintain the karmas needed in this age to run a family, raise children and retire in due course with dignity, satisfaction that one has performed the Grihasthasrama Dharma to one's capacity, be truthful and follow the Acharyas' Amudha Mozhigal.

Regards.

Daasan RR

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RS - Can U please post this in Sri Ranga Sri & Prapatti.com - Regards - RR.

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On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:28 PM, narayan <narayan@tka- jbm.thyssenkrupp .com> wrote:

Dear Swamin,

What prayachitham one has to do for crossing the sea after having

done prapathi.

Somehow i was able to postpone my official trip outside the country,

but might not be possible at all times.

Dasan

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May 30, 2008

mails are getting more and more interesting and informative.i do not know RR SWAMI personally,yet i observe him whenever he instructs people coming for bharanyasam.he would say for eg.hotel is not prohibited .try avoiding them. thoopul laksminarasimhachari usedto say : hotelil sappidavendamnu sollale, udyoga nimithama pona sappidungo,adhukkaga pudu hotelnu sollindu kanda kanda echilellam sappidavendam parungo! we are only 5% wecan come up only by unity and steadfast adhherence to our sampradayam to the extent POSSIBLE. i observe there is asmall group who say :let us be what we are,at the end we will do bharanyasam .read confession in achurch-that is precisely avoided V.RAMAN

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