RE: The jIva as as sarvajna, an infinite kno wer in moksha

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Jay Nelamangala [sMTP:jay]

Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:10 PM

mani;

Re: The jIva as as sarvajna, an infinite knower

in moksha

 

" Jay Nelamangala " <jay

 

>A question about Dvaita's concept of the jIva

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>In Dvaita, it is said that the manas does not persist in

>moksha. How does the jIva in moksha know things other than

>itself? How does it know Brahman, without an external agent?

>I ask this not as a challenge, but to understand the Dvaita

>position.

 

Dear Mani,

 

Good question. The answer is simple. The " internal organ " to the self

which fecilitates this knowledge

is called as " Saakshi " in Madhwa-Siddantha. Just as the knowledge that "

I slept well for so long "

happens to us after waking up from deep-asleep everyday and during that time

Manas is sleeping as well and so is inactive. So, this knowledge can only

happen by the operation of Saakshi.

and it does produce that knowledge without an external agent like Manas.

 

I hope I have clarified your question. VMS is publishing an article on

" Saakshi Pramana in Brahma Mimamsa Shastra " written by me. When it is in

its final form, I will send you a copy of the newsletter.

 

Harihi Om Tatsat,

 

Jayakrishna

 

I think there is also a jIvOpAdhy (jiva upAdhy), i.e., an internal medium thru

which experience and knowledge are transmitted to the knower i.e, sAkshi. This

jIvOpAdhy is also as old as the jIva itself and operates at moksha also. I read

it somewhere (in one of BNK's books) and will give you the reference later.

 

GV Srinivasan