Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 Prof.Hebbar: > I know both your good self and shrI Gopal Potti equally well. > Both of you are wonderful people who have done a lot for the > MAdhva community in the New York and Washington DC areas > respectively and will (I am sure) do much more in the years > to come. And so, it pains me to see two well-meaning and > devout MAdhvas to have this harsh verbal duel. I think you may be confusing me with someone else, I did not have any duel with anyone. Usually, I end up with a monologue as I am very vocal in expressing my opinions and mince no words; but on the issue of legitimacy of worshipping Ayyappa, I did not have anything to say. I merely stated after the fact that calling Madhva theoreticians " extremists " is a disservice. I certainly do not practise the perfect Madhva way of living but I have high regard for those who do. Those who are now creating new " hybrid " Madhva communites by worshipping false gods through ignorance should not be mollycoddled. I agree with NAPS Rao's comments; I reiterate again that if truth hurts one must learn to be deaf, not cry foul! Regards, Arvind Acharya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 Dear shrI Acharya: Let me give you a few examples of how hinterland MAdhva customs differ from coastal MAdhva customs, some of which had (perhaps?) the candid approval of ShrImadAcArya himself. One example that readily comes to mind and the one that perhaps clearly demarcates the difference between the two cultures is the fish-eating habits of the GauDa-SArasvat MAdhvas (who can be readily recognized by their typical " Mangalorean " surnames such as Pai, Prabhu, Kamath, Shenoy etc.). It has been an officially long-accepted habit among the GauDa-SArasvats to eat fish. These peoples were converted by ShrImadAcArya himself (who, I am sure, was quite aware of their dietary habits even as he converted them) on his way back via Gomantaka (Goa) after his Second North Indian Tour. Until 1476 AD, the entire GauDa-SArasvat community were parishoners of the PhalimAr MaTha of UDupi. HH RAmacandra TIRtha, the 10th Pontiff on the pITha of the PhalimAr MaTha, on account of certain marked differences between the TuLu and the KonkaNI MAdhvas decided that they ought to be goverened by their own maThas. As such in 1476, he choose a young lad from among their own ranks and ordained him as nArAyaNa TIrtha at Bhatkal (North Kanara). The paramparA descended from HH nArAyaNa TIrtha today goes by the name " JIvottama PartagALi MaTha " (alias GokarNa MaTha). Later on, in 1542 AD, after the Portuguese conquest of Gomantaka, another maTha, the KAshI MaTha based at Cochin came into being. In fact, the present pontiff of the KAshI MAtha HH SudhIndra TIrtha thinks that ShrImadAcArya was KonkaNI-speaking and not TuLu speaking. This has become a rather sticky issue between the TuLu and the KonkaNI MAdhvas. Hon'ble Dr. BNK Sharma however has argued (and quite successfully so, I might add) that ShrImadAcArya was a Taulava and not a Konkanastha. To complicate matters further, inscriptions were discovered four decades ago within the precincts of the KRSHNa Temple at UDupi by one of my late professors, the late Hon'ble Prof. Padur Gururaja Bhatt (MA, PhD and a TuLu MAdhva himself) that funds were donated by Messrs. DAmarasa Prabhu and LingaNNa Pai (both GauDa-Sarasvat MAdhvas) to make extensive addittions and renovations to the KRSHNa Temple in 1614 AD. This would have been roughly 14 years after the sajIvavRndAvana pravesha of HMVH VAdirAja GurusArvabhaumaru at Sode. Further, in both the GokarNa and the KAshI MaThas (it may be noted), the pUjAparicArakas (i.e. devaraseve avaru) when they go home on vacation eat fish and afterwards resume their duties normally once they are back in their mAthas assisting their svAmIs in their daily pUjAs to the paTTada devarus of their respective maThas. The SvAmIjIs themselves in their pUrvAshrama would also perhaps have eaten fish. Anyway, nobody even bats an eyelid about all this. Such an action would be unthinkable in the hinterland or the TauLava mAThas. Yet I have personally seen shrI Gopinath Galagali's father, the Hon'ble PaNDit Pandarinathachaya Galagali do " shAstrIya pATha " to HH VidyAdhirAja TIrtha svAmIjI, the incumbent pontiff of the GokarNa MaTha. Another one that comes to my mind is the " mInu hiDiyo habba " during TuLu MAdhva weddings (clearly a coastal habit). These were done, of course, when weddings lasted 13 days. Today, in this age of ready-made divorces, one should be happy if the marriage lasts longer than the actual wedding ceremony itself. There is no such thing as " melugacche " among orthodox TuLu MAdhva women. The Konkanasthas, however, DO have it. And there are many others..... Anyway, these are " deshAchAra " issues and they are better off left in their own cultural settings. ShrImadAcArya taught us the glorious doctrine of tattvavAda, and bearing this in mind, let us all be united as MAdhvas under this banner through ABMM, VMS, CMS etc. to preserve and perpetuate this. I know both your good self and shrI Gopal Potti equally well. Both of you are wonderful people who have done a lot for the MAdhva community in the New York and Washington DC areas respectively and will (I am sure) do much more in the years to come. And so, it pains me to see two well-meaning and devout MAdhvas to have this harsh verbal duel. I am deeply sorry to see my good friend Vasu Murthy, a VMS director, and a man of deep sincereity, patience and goodwill to have been caught in the middle of all this. With his usual dignified demeanor he has done some superb tight-rope walking on this issue. My hats-off for him on that. He is truly fit to be the director. I pray sincerely that all parties effect a compromise on this matter as expeditiously as possible. In any organization and on any given issue, there are bound to be differences of opinion along conservative and liberal lines. That is a given. The idea, however, is to work together despite these differences. I am sure you both know all this. Sorry for the sermonizing. My deep praNAms to you both and one and all in the MAdhva community. kindest regards, Hari-vAyu smaraNa, B.N.Hebbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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