Guest guest Posted January 27, 2000 Report Share Posted January 27, 2000 I noticed some errors/omissions in my earlier email which I would like to correct: 1. " Prakritihi Kartree purushastu pushakarapalaashavat nirliptaha " should read as " Prakritihi Kartree purushastu pushkarapalaashavat nirliptaha " in the Samkhya school. 2. then Purusha who is Jnaatr ( Jnana-vishaya or to be known) should read as then Purusha who is Jnaatr ( the knower ) Note that the intention of these emails is to show how the different schools of thought start out with conclusions / upadeshas and not from Vichaara or Enquiry. In order to illustrate this point, only those concepts that are absolutely necessary have been introduced. For example, in the Samkhya school itself, there are two schools: Nireeshwara Samkhya and Seshwara Samkhya. In the Nireeshwara Samkhya as the name suggests, there is no Iswara. In Seshwara Samkhya, Iswara is one among the many causes for this world. The Purusha they talk about stands for Chetana, consciousness and intelligence while Prakriti is dynamic energy and action. Prakriti is one and purusha (jivas) are many. The jiva continues to be in samsaara as long as he does not have the discriminative knowledge of Purusha and Prakriti. The proper way to do this is to start with the Samkhya epiestomology , Samkhya Ontology, etc and for this purpose one should read Iswara Krishna's Samkhya Kaarika. As you can see from these emails, the intention is to see what would have happened to those schools if they had started with proper Pramaana Parikshaa and not with Prameyas. That is why, Srimad Ananda Thiirtha and following him Jayatheertha, Vyaasatheertha, Raghavendra Thirrtha and others insist in all their works, that it is Vichaara or Jigyaasaa that should lead us and not conclusions. Sri Raghavendra Thiirtha takes it further, in Mantrartha Manjari in the beginning of that work when he says " Soothraartham Hridi Krittyaiva Bhashyaartham Samprakaashaye " (The meaning of Bhashya is being brought out only after keeping in mind the meaning of Sutra) Note that Sri Raghavendra thiirtha's Mantrartha Manjari is a work on aNu Bhashya of Srimad Ananda Thiirtha !! You can see how different the actual position of Shaastra is when compared to our ordinary understanding that it is Bhashya that decides the meaning of Sutra is. In Yukti Mallika Vaadiraja Thiirtha says, " Sutraanusaaree cha yat sarvam shaastramiti ati mangalam " . So what is auspicious for us? that which follows sutra-nyaya. Sutra is Vichaara-roopa and that is why it is Vichaara, Jigyaasaa, Mimaamsaa, Enquiry or Shastra that should lead us and not conclusions. Similar to these, we can look at all the different schools from the point of view of Jnana-Tattva in a different series of emails, may be sometime in future. Jayakrishna Nelamangala - ------- RJAY Consultants Inc., Tel: (703)430-8090 Fax: (703)904-8496 Email: jay - ------- Jay Nelamangala <jay VMS < > Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:10 PM part VI - Astika Systems and Brahma Vaada " Jay Nelamangala " <jay To recollect what has been said so far, Srimad Acharya does not give importance to the Nastika and Astika classification that we are familiar with. In his view, whichever is opposed to Brahma-Vaada is Naastika. The schools of thought which have been refuted by Baadaraayana in SamayaPaada, under the name of " Samayas " those are the ones which oppose Brahma-Vaada. He showed that in this world, any school of thought that is not Brahma-Vaada that was there in the past, that is there at present and that might be there in future, will all come under one of these Samayas. These Samayas will always be there, and will be brought to prominence by those who do not follow BaadaraayaNa completely, and thus negating Veda itself, and that is why he considers all of them as Naastika. The Charuvaka, Bouddha and Jaina systems started off with the Upadesha of their respective thinkers, and not with Pramaana-Parikshaa, and if they had started with proper Pramaana-Parikshaa their schools of thought would not be born. With this background in mind, let us examine the Astika Schools. Astika systems are also known as " Shad-Darshana " under the name of Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Poorva-Mimamsaa, and Uttara Mimamsaa - these six systems are the Astika Schools of thought. Among these Uttara Mimamsaa is also known as Vedanta. Nyaya-Vaisheshika : There were Nyaya and Vaisheshika - two independent schools of thought in the beginning. There was Nyaya which dealt with mainly " Pramaana vichaara " and Vaisheshika which dealt with " Prameya vichaara " mainly and in the course of time, because of their similarities the two became one school of thought , under the name Nyaya-Vaisheshika. In what took shape in these three forms, " Pramaana " was established in the light of empirical experience and in accordance with that Veda was accepted as Pramaana. Attempt was made to understand the " para-tatva " with the help of such a Pramaana, and what came out as Siddhantha thus turned out to be Empirical i.e., Loukika as well. Like the experience that Potter is the cause for the making of the Pot, so also Iswara is the cause for portion of this world that is " made " . Iswara is one of the many among the portion that is not " made " like time, space etc. But still as maker of this world, Ishwara is Sarvajna. They imagined that Veda was made by the Ishwara thus conceived. This imagination ruled their " Pramaana-Pariikshaa " and though their reasoning appears to be quite terse, it turns out to be a mere imagination. The main reason for this imagination is their conclusion without Vichaara or enquiry that " Ishwara is the lord of this world and veda is pramaana " . The proof for this is in the fact that this school of thought goes all out in establishing " what is believed to be Ishwara " and " what is believed to be Veda " . Sammkhya: The Samkhya school agrees with the fact that this world comprises of Chetana and Achetana, they call the Achetana as Prakriti and Chetana as Purusha and start out with the belief that, " Prakritihi Kartree purushastu pushakarapalaashavat nirliptaha " (Prakriti is the doer and Purusha is unattached, aloof like the lotus leaf) To establish this position which it believed in, it starts out with pramaanas. In doing so, although there is a place for Veda and although Veda is described to be Apourusheya, the defect in this school of thought is that Veda is used to as supportive to establish the above said imagination. If this school had not started out with the above conclusion, and instead had started out with pure Pramaana- pariikshaa, then Purusha who is Jnaatr ( Jnana-vishaya or to be known) would not be known as Nirlipta and this school would not have a chance to start with the conclusion that Prakriti has kartrtva. THis whole school of thought would not be born, if the knowledge had set in thro Pramaana-Parikshaa that Purusha who is Jnaatr, alone is the Kartr also. The " aloofness " as defined by Samkhya as the state of Purusha being left to itself is inconceivable. So, having started with an imagination, the whole Samkhya school turns out to be a mere imagination. In the next email, we will examine the Yoga and PoorvaMimaamsaa schools. 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