Guest guest Posted May 2, 2000 Report Share Posted May 2, 2000 hari saRvOththamma, vAyu jIvOththamma shrI gurubhyO namaha ESTABLISHMENT OF VISHNU SARVOTHTHAMMA (hariH parataraH) Question: Swamiji, in Bhaghavat Geetha where it has been clearly stated that Brahma, Rudhra etc do not occupy the Supreme position (SarvOththammathwa)? Srigalavalavaru: Arjuna after becoming a brahmajnanee & who is seeing Krishna with special vision is making his statement as a witness. BG 11- 15: Hey Krishna, I am seeing in Your Body all dhevas, groups of living beings Brahma sitting on a lotus, Rudhra sitting on the lap of Brahma, all Rishis & great serpents. The idea is that all are present in the body of the Supreme God depending on him BG 11-22: Yekadasa Rudhras, Dwadhasa Adhithyas, Ashtavasus, Sadhyas, Vishvedhevathas, Aswini dhevathas, forty nine Maruththas, Pithrudhevathas, Gandharvas, Yakshas, Asuras, groups of Sidhdhas & all are looking at you with surprise look. BG 11- 37: Swami, since You are Perfect, a great, guru , creator of the world, & creator of Chaturmukha Brahma, how can any one remain without paying respect to You. BG 14- 27 : I am the protector & maintainer of Mahalakshmi, Chathurmukhabrahma, permanent groups of Mukthas, Nishkama dharma which give permanent result (Phala) & salvation (Mukthi) which is permanent pleasure which has no tinge of suffering. BG 7-5: Krishna says to Arjuna that he should understand that Mahalakshmi who is different from non living prakruthi & who is responsible for all jeevas to acquire physical bodies & who is superior to all living & non living Prakruthi is dependent on me. These sentences, mean that Lakshmi, Brahma, Rudhra etc are only subordinate to Vishnu & are not independent of him. Question: The author of Brahma suthras, which determine the correct meaning of Vedavyasa, by what means has shown that Vishnu Parabrahma ie. sarvOththamasvasthu (perfect Supreme God)? If Vishnu is BG is also shown as perfect Supreme God by the same means then there will be common words, between Suthras, & words of Sri Krishna in BG. Srigalavaru: In Brahmasuthras, apart from saying clearly, as such the following Lakshana (uncommon Dharma) have been mentioned as the uncommon qualities of Supreme God (Parabrahma Vishnu) Purnananda (perfect pleasure) freedom (independence), knowing everthing (sarvajnathwa), janma (creation), maintenance & protection (Sthuthi), destruction (Laya), control (Niyamana), knowledge (Jnyana), ignorance (Ajnana), entangling jeevas in worldly affairs (Bandha), power to grant salvation (Mukthi), ablility to do all these (Karthuthva), power to be present everywhere (Antherbahir Vyathathva), being described by Om (Pranava pradhipadhyathva), described by all vedantha (Nikhilaveda vedantha Prathip padathva), freedom from prakrithigunas & karmabandha. Peculiar power of all indriyas to every part of his body, power to enjoy the result of all good karmas (sarva sathkarmaphala Bhokthruthva), the power to remain same everywhere without any change in all circumstances (Sarvasamathva) power to remain unknown (Avyakththva), uncommon power (Achinthya sakthimathva) power to grant salvation to jeevas, with whom he is pleased & when the jeevas understand his greatness (Mukthi hethu bheetha jnana Vishayathwa) etc. Perfect pleasure (Poornanandathva) has been settled as typical guna of supreme God (Vishnu) in Brahmasuthra like " Anandamayoabhyasyath " (B 86) since Krishna is poornAnada svaroopa one can accept him as sarvoththamma. Sukha Ananda is a purushartha by itself. All other requirements for a person are required for the purpose of his Dukha. There is no answer for the question why one wants Sukha. For one who has complete & perfect sukha, there is nothing in all the three worlds required by such a person. Therefore, one who has no desire is considered to be sarvoththamma. Krishna says: BG 3- 22 : Arjuna since, there is nothing in all the three worlds which I did not have in the past & which I should get in the future, there is no allotted Karma for me to do for the purpose of obtaining the wanted thing. Since all keeva including Brahma, Rudhra etc are engaged in the Aradhana (worship) of Paramathma either to obtain salvation or His grace, therefore, they are not without any desire or want. Since the quality of not having any desire or want is only in Krishna & not in anyone else, therefore only Krishna is sarvOththamma & none else. Even Lakshmi is subordinate to Vishnu. Independence(Swathanthra) is another quality indicating perfect supremacy. This has been settled as such in Brahmasuthras like " Thadhananyathvamarambhanasabhi " (B 87) Krishna says he has this guna in Him. BG 4- 13 : I have created chaturvarnas, but there is no creator to Me. I am Independent. BG 10 - 8: According to my directions, all jeevas follow their course of action, Krishna has repeated what is said in Shruthies like " Naruthethvathkiyathekinchanare " everything is under His control. All knowing (Sarvajnathva) is another character of sarvOththamathva. This has been stated as such in Brahmasuthras. in Adhrusyathvadhikarana. This quality includes understanding thoroughly Himself as well as every other item in the world different from Himself. This quality is present only in Vishnu & no one else. BG 4- 6: Arjuna for you & Me many births & rebirths have gone by, I know all of them, but you do not know them (Since you are one that causes sorrow to your enemies). BG 7- 20: Arjuna, I know everything of past, present & future of everything but no one knows me thoroughly well not even Chathurmukha Brahma (Kaha means Chathumukha Brahma). BG 4- 15: I know all the vedhas completely & I composed vedhanthasuthras. BG 10- 2: Even groups of Devathas & Maharshee are not able to understand fully My greatness. BG 10-- 14/15: Keshava, what are all your greatness you have told me, they are all true. Neither dhevathas, nor Dhanavas, know completely Your greatness by Yourself without any external help, You have understood Yourself completely. BG 7- 24: A jeeva can understand Krishna according to the capacity of the concerned jeeva only with the grace of God. Without the grace of God, no one can understand God to any extent. No one can understand God completely under any circumstances. to be contd: Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)368286 All rights go to the Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. Sri kRuShNARpanamasthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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