Guest guest Posted May 23, 2000 Report Share Posted May 23, 2000 hari saRvOththamma, vAyu jIvOththamma shrI gurubhyO namaha ESTABLISHMENT OF REALITY OF THE WORLD: ( JAGATHSATHYATHVA) Question: Swamiji, by serpent mistaken in a rope, which is Mithya, fear is caused. Srigalavaru: Serpent mistaken in a rope does not create fear, but a person seeing a rope thinks that it is a serpent, that knowledge causes fear. Illusion of serpent is real. The real knowledge has the power of " Artha Kriyakarithva " i.e. producing real effects. Mukthi (salvation is a parmarthika (real state. This has been accepted as such by all. If people in Mukthi state feel that the world exists & if aparoksha jnanees when they are in jnana state see the world then the world must be real. Nithya (real) things can never become " Mithya " (false). Nithya means they are existing in all times. In that case " Nasti Nusinna bhavishya the Ethya Karaka jnana Vishaytham mithya thuam " this definition of Mithya of advaithees does not apply to mithya things. Similarly, certain temporary things also exist for some time; hence they cannot be mithya as defined by advaitees. Since Brahma is " Nithya " (one that exists always) hence he is Sathya (Real). In the same way, if we can see any other thing through sastra as nithya, we should decide that as Sathya (real). Adwaithees say that a thing is " Mithya " if it is not existing now, it was not in past & not going to be in future, all these conditions are satisfied by silver in shell & son of a barren woman. Their Siddhantha is world is Mithya like silver in shell. But a few modern advaitee say that Mithya means temporary. Though this quality is not in prakruthi sky & time, it is in many things in the world such people should give up comparison of the world with silver in shell. For us, in our quest to find out whether the world is sathya or mithya, we have come across certain means which help us in our efforts. After applying those means if it is found that the world is nithya, then it is paramarthika Sathya; if it fails then it is " Mithya " . Some advaithees say that there is no harm if avidhya is not amenable for any proof by reason. They say it is a favourable argument for adwaitha if the world which is full of avidhya is not amenable for any proof by reasoning. For avidhya not being amenable for any reasoning is a favourable point not a drawback. For avidhya to be not being amenable for establishing by reasoning is the main quality of its nature. After making one more statement, we shall end the work of preface & start enjoying the sweet words of Sri Krishna. There is a proverb for a job that can be done by nail, why should we require vajrayudha? According to above proverb inorder to show the draw back in the statement " Viswam Mithya " , the universe is unreal " why should we call the Parabrahma " Supreme God " as witness? Just like I am the son of a barren woman " the statement everything is Mithya is true or false, He will be bound in whatever way he answers. If the statement is true how to say everything is false? that sentence also is false (It is not there). Therefore, Mithyathwa of the universe cannot be established (like the words of the son of a barren woman). To contradict a statement which has died by itself to use the words of Bhaghawan is just like using great weapon against a dead enemy in vain. Since mayavada has earned false prestige. We shall disprove it by words of Krishna alone " PRAKRUTHYADHI JAGATH ANADHI PRA KURTHYANADHI JAGATH ANADHI " THE UNIVERSE HAS HAD NO BEGINNING: BG 2-12, 13: From this sentence, it is clear that jeevas are Nithyas without beginning. They could not have been without a dheha. Mukthi is a stage that has to come some time in future. All these warriors in all the time must be having bodies made of prakruthi & experiencing pleasure & pain as they are amukthas in different countries. Relationship with Prakruthi Deha is necessary till Mukthi for all jeevas; so, says Krishna to Arjuna. For Kumara who has a body of a boy, he gets a body of a youth, the youth will get an old man's body, in this way if one body goes another body comes till Mukthi. From this, for jeevas different bodies through which they experience pleasure & pain are coming one after another from beginning less time. Therefore Prakruthi, sky etc., are Nithya & Mithyathva does not apply to them. Even advaithies agree that jeeva, Easwara & Sudhdha Brahma differences among these three & avidhya & avidhya chith sambhandha (relationship with avidhya & chith). These six are nithya. But htey say they are Mithya as they are object, of Mithya jnana which is unreasonable. BG 2- 17: TO BE CONTINUED............................................................... Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)368286 All rights remain with Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. bhAratIramaNamukhyaprANA.ntargata shri kRuShNARpanamasthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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