Guest guest Posted July 27, 2000 Report Share Posted July 27, 2000 hari sarvottamma, vaayu jiivottamma shrii gurubhyo namaha shrii kr^iShNa parabrahmane namaha BG 18--- 1-4: Krishna says, not causing fear to good people & he also not fearing any bad persons, to have conscience that does not meditate on bad thoughts, earnestness in hearing & meditating on qualities of Bhaghavan, giving alms to deserving people according to procedure, & to do vedhadhyayana under the direction of a proper guru. Doing thapas in proper way. to be same in work, in words, & in thinking, to practice ahimsa, to speak truth as laid down in vedas, to give up anger that causes trouble to good people, to be liberal in good aspects, be calm, keeping mind steadily in God not to carry tales against good people, to sympathise with all, not being interested in worldly pleasures, not I hate even those who trouble him, to be ashamed of doing bad acts, to be firm in chaste way of life, not to be defeated by bad fearless in sathvic things. To keep both body & mind pure, these are the svabhava (nature of soul) of chethanas that are fit for Moksha. Even though one knows that he is very ordinary, to show that he is very great, while there is cause to be feared, to show that he is fearless to be selfish. To get agree, to do harm to good people. To speak in a way that causes pain to others, tobe ignorant or have wrong knowledge. These are the qualities of souls of chethanas of thamasic people. One should not think that these are qualities acquired due to previous karma & not intrinsic qualities. Krishna has described the results people of these categories attain & they prove the people of these categories exist permanently. BG 15--5: The dhaivisampath enable the chethana having those qualities to become eligible for one of 4 types of Mukthi. Asura sambandhi sampath makes the chethana having those qualities to go down to the worst hell, never to return. This sentence is not so categorical. In 12 slokas, Krishna describes Asurisampath & already pronounces the final fate of such a thamasic chethana. BG 16---7-20: People of thamasic nature do not know the proper procedure to be followed in doing the prescripted karma & what karmas they should avoid as per shasthras. They do not have proper cleanliness. They do not speak the truth. They believe that the world is a mithya. It is just an illusion of mind. They do not have proper jnana (knowledge) & do unholy karma which causes much harm to the world & makes the authors of such harm to acquire enough sin to enable them to fall in to hell. They are immersed in worldly pleasures. They do cruel deeds. They are very proud that they perform yajnas & yagas & give alms to undeserving people at worng times with great show. They feel they have earned so much wealth today & they are going to earn more in subsequent days. They feel there is no one else equal to them. They hate God, who is in their body & in the body of every other person. They feel they are independent & no one can control them in any way. At the end, they fall in the dark hell never to return. People having Asuraambhandhi nature without knowing the proper way of doing karma or avoiding karma whereever necessary, acquire sin paramathma puts them again & again in Asurayoni & finally they, without attaining Krishna, fall in to the worst hell never to return from there. From these shlokas, it is seen that one who enters the darkest hell never return. Such a punishment would not be proper even for a bad act if it has been done by an accident. It must be for a person that does such bad acts in birth after birth habitually. Therefore, it is clear that there are two classes of people one doing good work habitually in birth after birth, & finally attain Krishna & remain in permanent happiness, never to return to samsara, & another class of people who do bad work habitually in birth after birth, never attaining Krishna & enter darkest hell, never to return to samsara. Question: Swamiji, why the word " adhamamgathim " is said to mean a hell from which there is no return, instead of treating it to mean very difficult hell? Answer: Since Krishna has already said " Pathanthi nara ke suchave " & " Asurishve va yonishu " as ordinary punishment, the punishment now said should be something more severe than that is Hell, from which there is no return. And further Krishna has said " mamaprapthavai kautheya " without attaining Krishna at any time. Therefore, it means that there are certain people who never attain Krishna (i.e. Mukthi). If all chethanas were equal, everyone of them would attain Krishna at some date & attain Mukthi. Since there are some who never attain Krishna at any time they do not get mukthi but go to a hell from which there is no return. This proves that there are two types of people, one of dheva swabhava & another of asurasvabhava. Question: Swamiji, if it is said that good chetanas always do good work & bad chethanas do bad work, then what was the reason for Ajamila & Madhava who were good people but they followed prohibited procedure? Answer: This is an old question. Good people always generally do good karmas, just as magnet attracting iron is its nature, for good people doing good work is their nature. But since man is weak minded, they are liable to the influence by bad company or wrong interpretations of sastras. In such circumstances, even good people under illusion, do bad acts. But as soon they become free from evil influence & proper under illusion, do bad acts. But as soon they become free from evil influence & proper advice is obtained, their mental aberration will disappear & they assume their normal sathvic nature. They feel sorry also for having done bad acts during their mental aberration. In contrast, to this the history of bad people also should be understood in a similar manner. when normal natural quality is obstructed due to strong opposite influences, it cannot assert itself for a temporary period. Whne the external contrary influence becomes either weak or disappears, the natural quality asserts itself. The probability of good people by nature continue to do bad things for long & bad people by nature continue to do good work for long is remote. Question: Swamiji, in this connection, where has Krishna said? TO BE CONTINUED................................................................. Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)368286 All rights remain with Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. bhAratIramaNamukhyaprANA.ntargata shri kR^iShNArpanamasthu ............................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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