Guest guest Posted August 15, 2000 Report Share Posted August 15, 2000 hari sarvottamma, vaayu jiivottamma shrii gurubhyo namaha shrii kr^iShNa parabrahmane namaha ESTABLISHMENT OF VARIATIONS IN THE NATURE OF HUMAN BEINGS: ( NICHOCHEHA BHAVANGATHAHA, THARATHAMYA SAMARTHANA:) Question: Swamiji, Yaththa kruthsnavadhekasmin karye saktham " In this sentence, it is said that to consider one work as sarva (everything) or purna (complete) is Thamasic knowledge, one can agree that to consider a work as everything is thamaic knowledge. But what is the reason to consider that understanding a jeeva as complete brahma is thamasic knowledge? Answer: We also interpret that considering one work as everything is thamasic knowledge. But here, the word 'Karya' is to be interpreted as " Jeeva " therefore the understanding that in the case of a 'Jeeva' either as Brahma or as everything i.e. there is nothing else other than than this jeeva like theory of only one jeeva, against numerous jeevas is thamasic knowledge. Question: Swamiji what is the reason for interpreting Karya as jeeva here? Krishna has said in every chethana one & the same brahma is present without any difference & that is sathvika jnana (knowledge). Thamasa jnana should be opposite of this. Therefore if you say a jeeva is brahma or every jeeva is brahma etc that would be opposite to the statement made by Krishna as sathvika jnana is thamasic jnanas (knowledge) therefore word " Karya " in this sloka & the word " bhutha " in the sloka ''sarvabhutheshu " have the same meaning. Therefore, in both the places, it is interpreted as chethana (prani) in this shloka comes in chethana prakarana. According to context, the word " Karya " is to be interpreted as chethana only. To understand a jeeva as brahma, amounts to hatred of paramathma. Since an insignificant, underserving jeeva will be assuming the power of & equality with almighty God, which Krishna has declared in chapter 16 & 17 will result for bad fall for jeeva as it is thamasa jnana. An ordinary wrong knowledge does not cause such bad consequences. For example, if one understands a bigstone as Himalaya mountain, he will be under an illusion, but will not go to hell because it does not result in hatred of God. If one thinks that a jeeva is brahma, it is dishonoring paramatma & this hatred merits the punishment of being sent to hell. Therefore, here if it is said that understanding a " Karya " of it should be interpreded as understanding a " Jeeva " as brahma 3 there is another reason for interpreting " Karya " as jeeva " Anyatha Karaneeya thvathka ryaha " from this origin of the word Karya, because the jeeva is liable for being freed from samsars & transferred to the stage of Mukthi, he is considered as Karya. Again, since he has a body which is a result of Karya, he can be called Karya. The following sloka from padma gives the meaning of this sloka in Geetha. Meaning: Because he can be freed from samsara jeeva is called a Karya. To understand such a jeeva as " akarya " (one who does not under go any chance & remain constant for ever) (God) or to understand that by understanding one jeeva he has understand everything is thamasa jnana. 4. There are many authorities to show that Mukthi can come in future. Krishna has said " Santhi mapnothi Naishkhikeem " " visathe thamdhanatharam " " Sarva papebhyo moksha yishyami " . If one resticts that " Karya " should be interpreted only as " Dhehe " , breaking the compound word into two words like " yathatha Krishna vadhekasmin " & " KAryesaktham " then it easily gives the meaning that the understanding that a chethana is a poornabrahma or being interested in the body is thamasa knowledge. The following sentences from Krishna are authorities " Easwaraham " , " Mamathma paradheesheshu pradhvi shanthaha " " Shkthaha Karmanya vidhvamsyo " " prakruthe argunasamoodaha " . So, it is established beyond all doubts that bhedhajnana that jeeva is different from Brahma is sathvika jnana (knowledge) & that jeeva himself brahma is thamasic knowledge. Three kinds of karmas have been described by Krishna as follows: BG 18-23-25: The karma performed by kartha is the prescribed way thinking that he is not doing himself independently without any like or dislike, considering it as duty, without expecting anything in return (nishkama karma) is a sathvika karma; a prescribed karma performed in prescribed way but with the expectationof heavenly pleasures as reward & doing a small work with great difficulty & thinking that he is doing it himself is called a rajasa karma. Performance of any karma without considering the fact that the performance of that karma may hinder the perfomance of a better karma, without considering the trouble & construction that may be caused to others by the performance of his karma & thinking that he is doing the karma independently by himself is called thamasa karma. Note: In the original " Niyatha KArma " is used which has been translated above as prescribe karma. The meaning of niyatha karma is vedhoktha svavarnasramo chithakarma performed with the knowledge of Hari sarvottammathva, with bhakthis in paramathma & surrendering the results to paramathma. Though mukthas are not bound to perform any karma but of their own valition they perform such niyatha karma which they were doing prior to their attaining Mukthi. This is done due to force of habit & because Mukthas feel great joy in serving God, though there is no compulsion for them to do any karma. TO BE CONTINUED................................................................. Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)36828 All rights remain with Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. bhAratIramaNamukhyaprANA.ntargata shri kR^iShNArpanamasthu ............................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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