Guest guest Posted September 17, 2000 Report Share Posted September 17, 2000 hari sarvottamma, vaayu jiivottamma shrii gurubhyo namaha shrii kR^iShNa parabrahmane namaha MUKTHI NAIJA SUKHA NUBHUTHIHI: DESCRIPTION OF NATURE OF MUKTHI: MUKTHI SVARUPA NIRUPANA: ESTABLISHMENT OF MUKTHI ENJOYMENT OF SVARUPANANDA OF JEEVAS Question: Giving up the jeevabhava of " I " to attain Ikya with brahma who is chinmathra. Answer: You should not say that Ikya with chinmathra is Mukthi. the jeeva is a chinmathra even now, you have to say the destruction of " I " bhava is Mukthi. So advaitha thatva has come to this is a very undesirable but against accepted dharma in normal life. It is said that when a wise man perceives that every thing of his belongings are about to be destroyed by his enemy he should give danger to his life, he should part with every thing & save himself " Athmarthamhi sarvam " i.e. good body, wealth everything is required for my own happiness. Even those who serve their country, Guru seva, service to God etc., expect some thing in return from which they get happiness. Even dhadheechi who gave his back bone to Indra, did so with belief that God would be pleased by his act & that dhadheechi would become happy. Even those who do nishkAma karma do so under the belief that they are carrying out the order of God & get happiness. Any kind of Mukthi, if it is going to bring happiness to me, I wish to have it but I cannot wish my own destruction. If Ikya with nishkAma karma do so under the belief that they are carrying out the order of God & get happiness. Any kind of Mukthi, if it is going to bring happiness to me, I wish to have it but I cannot wish my own destruction. If Ikya with nirguna brahma is Mukthi then it is not a purushArtha. For purushArtha means that which is liked by the chethana, they are dharma, Artha, Kaama, moksha, from every one of them chethana expects happiness. Chethanas try hard to attain Mukthi because they ahve suffered badly in samsara, they want to get rid of this sorrowful samsara & get positive happiness for ever. If Brahmaikya can bring such happiness, every one would desire it. But as has beeeen seen the prospect after Ikya with nirguna Brahma is only self destruction. That self destruction is not desired by any body & if such a brahma Ikya is called Mukthi, it cannot be a purushArtha. But there is another point only if there is Bandha then the question of its removal & Mukthi will arise. If there is no bandha, there is no Mukthi. If an enquiry is made, paramarthikaly, there was no bandha, in the past, there is no bandha at present, there will be no bandha in future. This has been stated clearly in a work of advaitha system. The words of Sankaracharya " Navai bandho napimo kshaha " are very clear on the point. Dhvaithese repudiate that since there is no feeling that I am happy for the chethana in advaitha Mukthi, hence such a Mukthi is not a purushArtha. In one of their work, advaithies have argued that even though their is no feeling that I am happy in Mukthi, still such an Ikya Mukthi may be desired by men, since such a union is desired by men in actual life. They have given the example. For Sanskrit version, see annexture B item. " It should not be said that Brahmaikya in advaitha may not be liked by men just becase " there is no feeling that I am happy " for them in Mukthi (as they will have the quality of jada like stone). For an expertman in theart, when he has the union with the woman he loves most, he is not aware himself, his partner or the pleasure he is having in the act. This has been experienced by an expert enjoyer. In bharatha shastra, a heroine tells her friend that " once I embrance my husband, I cease to be aware of me, my husband & the pleasure from the act? In such an ordinary worldy union, the disappearance of awareness of who is enjoying, whom, he is enjoying & how he is enjoying for the enjoyer. But when all expert enjoyers (Rasikas) wish for such union, how can Maha Brahmananda will not be desired by great scholors? Therefore Mukthi, which is Brahmaikya is purushArtha. From so much discussion about truth, it has become clear that it cannot be said, according to advaitha system of philosophy, Mukthi is either arising of permanent pleasure or becoming free from ignorance (avidhya). Since Brahmaikya produces merger with brahma who is joy (Ananda), it self after destruction of " I " ness (Athmathva) which results in a state like stone, without the awareness of enjoyer, enjoyed & enjoyment, it cannot be a purushArtha. To call that as pradhana purushArtha is still absurd. Further, if it is examined paramarthikaly since there is no real bandha in advaita & hence there is no Mukthi. Since Mukthi it self is absent in adhvaitha, the question of speaking about its nature & its kinds does not arise. Krishna who known by " MukthAnam paramagathi hi " says that Mukthi is a purushArtha desired by all. (BG 7-11) TO BE CONTINUED................................................................. Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)36828 All rights remain with Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. bhAratIramaNamukhyaprANA.ntargata shri kR^iShNArpanamasthu ............................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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