Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 hari sarvottamma, vaayu jiivottamma shrii gurubhyo namaha shrii kR^iShNa parabrahmane namaha MUKTHI NAIJA SUKHA NUBHUTHIHI: DESCRIPTION OF NATURE OF MUKTHI: MUKTHI SVARUPA NIRUPANA: ESTABLISHMENT OF MUKTHI ENJOYMENT OF SVARUPANANDA OF JEEVAS Question: Swamy, You have told us that freedom from ignorance (avidhya) is Mukthi. How this avidhya can cover a jeeva who is a jnanee intrinsically? You have told us Brahma by nature jnana & avidhya cannot attack him. This should apply in Dvaita system also for Jeeva. Sri Srigalavaru: The power of brightness of grand sun is very much greater than the power of andhakara (darkness). Hence darkness cannot cover sun. But the weak small kerosene light is not able to over come darkness so efficiently therefore it cannot make things around visible as sun's light can make. In the same way, the chethana who has a little knowledge & a little power can not over come powerful prakruthi with able to remember its own nature or the nature of God. Just as a man who wares a shirt, though he generally knows his body,but is not able to see any mark on his chest unless he removes the shirt. Similarly, the chethana, though generally he knows his ability to act & to enjoy, he is not able to under stand completely his ability to act, his jnana & Ananda. Krishna says further (BG 5-15): His natural jnana (awareness) of chethana is covered by ignorance (avidhya) & hence he is not able to understanding paramathma & natural dharma of jeeva. Question: Swamy, after becoming free from ignorance (avidhya), does chethana understand paramathma by his natural jnana? Sri Srigalavaru: Yes, that is Mukthi. Krishna also says the same. BG 5-16: Chethana who is a jnanee by nature but has been covered by ignorance (avidhya) such a chethana whose covering of ignorance has been removed by aparokshajnana, his jnana like a bright sun after the eclips in cleared can understand paramathma. After the destruction of avidhya due to the effect of aparokshajnana, i.e. Brahma darshana, the jeeva secures the grace of God, & his natural jnana which was covered so far, arises, & from it he sees the paramathma direct. All mukthas understand paramathma with their svarupa jnana (intrinsic ablity to know). Similarly, they become aware of their natural qualities (dharma). Hence from sentences of Krishna alone, it becomes clear that Mukthi means the removal of the binding or covering of avidya. Question: Swamy, you have told us that chethana by nature ajnanee. But in samsaraa, he has been covered by avidhya etc.... Hence his intrinsic intelligence (jnana) is not able to understand either paramathma or his own natural qualities. Further, it cannot over come avidhya jnana has the natural quality of destroying ajnana. If it cannot destroy ajnana, then it is not a thing fit to be called jnana. A thing that cannot remove darkness, call it be called a light? In such situation, even in Mukthas, how can it directly understand paramathma? Therefore Your explaination is very doubtful. If chethana by nature a jnanee, for over coming a jnanee(avidya) he would not required outside help. Sri Srigalavaru: TO BE CONTINUED................................................................. Lectures on Bhaghavath Geetha (Dhwaitha Siddhantha Vaijayanthi) by H. H. Sri Sathya Dhyana Thirtha Sri Padhangalavaru, Uttradhi Mutt Translated into English by Sri Krishnamurthy Published by Sri M. R. Krishnamurthy & Sri M. N. Gururaja Rao of Mumbai Printed at: Parishree Printers 100/3 Nagappa Street Palace Guttahalli Bangalore 5600 04 Telephone # (80)36828 All rights remain with Uttradhi Mutt, Basavangudi, Bangalore 560004 Permission was given to post it in this list by the Uttradhi Mutt authorities & by Sri SathyAthma Thirtha Swamiji of Uttradhi Mutt. bhAratIramaNamukhyaprANA.ntargata shri kR^iShNArpanamasthu ............................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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