Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 Special Attention : Shri NAPS Rao Subject : Earthquakes in Ancient Times My assumption that there might have been an earthquake during Sitadevi's final test is based on the word 'vivara' which occurs in Ramayana, in this context. It means 'Hole' or 'Breach' (Monier - Williams p.988). At the time of her Shapatha, she says: YathAham RAghavAdanyaM manasApi na chintaye tathAme mAdhavI dEvi 'vivaram' dAtum arhati (uttarA kAnDa. 97-15) This, she repeats Thrice! 'Let Madhavi give me a 'randhra' And lo! the 'Aasana', after seating her, goes to 'rasAtala', through that breach. Then Rama overcome by sorrow and anger, addresses Bhudevi thus: If you don't bring her back, I shall destroy everything that you possess. Everything will be flooded. [ possible in an earthquake ] SaparvatavanAM kr^tsnAM vidhamiShyAmi tE sthitiM nAshyAmyaham bhUmiM sarvamApO bhavatviha This appeal to Bhudevi & vivara occurs in Bhavabhuti;s play 'uttararAma Charita'. Even ShakuntalA, when she is deserted by DuShyanta says: BhagavatI VasudhE dEhi me VIVARAM. (Act. V of kalidaas's play). The word vivaram, occurs even in Rigveda and some Puranas too. These frequent references indicate some form of earthquake and the same is indirectly and too distantly related to earthquakes in ancient times. In the case of Sita. it might not have happened in full realistic sense. But somehow the imprint of earthquake may be there, giving of course due credence to supernatural or spiritual power that worked at the time. My only concern is that, many a time, the supernatural aspect of great men, is blown to disproportional heights. Take for instance, Shri Raghavendra Swamiji and Munro incident. It is 100% true that Munro visualised the divine presence of our Swamiji. But should we extend this phenomenon to say, that he spoke to Munro in fluent English? Shrinivas HAVANUR ( Haridasa Mahiti Sanchayana ) Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 dear mr.shrinivas, for a man carrying a hammer everything looks like a nail. you are trying to intrepret the events to you own convenient pre-defined hypothesis. regarding sri raghavendra swamy, i don't understand why his ability to speak fluent english is so inconcievable for you. saints like him have attained a state that mere mortals like us cannot understand. there are somethings that can only be validated by our hearts and souls. bookish knowledge is of no use here. best regards, --ramadaasa --- Shrinivas Havanur <havanurasri wrote: > Special Attention : Shri NAPS Rao > > Subject : Earthquakes in Ancient Times > > My assumption that there might have been an > earthquake during Sitadevi's final test is based on > the word 'vivara' which occurs in Ramayana, in this > context. > > It means 'Hole' or 'Breach' (Monier - Williams > p.988). At the time of her Shapatha, she says: > > YathAham RAghavAdanyaM > manasApi na chintaye > tathAme mAdhavI dEvi > 'vivaram' dAtum arhati > (uttarA kAnDa. 97-15) > > This, she repeats Thrice! 'Let Madhavi give me a > 'randhra' And lo! the 'Aasana', after seating her, > goes to 'rasAtala', through that breach. > > Then Rama overcome by sorrow and anger, addresses > Bhudevi thus: > > If you don't bring her back, I shall destroy > everything that you possess. Everything will be > flooded. [ possible in an earthquake ] > > SaparvatavanAM kr^tsnAM > vidhamiShyAmi tE sthitiM > nAshyAmyaham bhUmiM > sarvamApO bhavatviha > > This appeal to Bhudevi & vivara occurs in > Bhavabhuti;s play 'uttararAma Charita'. Even > ShakuntalA, when she is deserted by DuShyanta says: > BhagavatI VasudhE dEhi me VIVARAM. (Act. V of > kalidaas's play). > > The word vivaram, occurs even in Rigveda and some > Puranas too. These frequent references indicate some > form of earthquake and the same is indirectly and > too > distantly related to earthquakes in ancient times. > > In the case of Sita. it might not have happened in > full realistic sense. But somehow the imprint of > earthquake may be there, giving of course due > credence > to supernatural or spiritual power that worked at > the > time. My only concern is that, many a time, the > supernatural aspect of great men, is blown to > disproportional heights. Take for instance, Shri > Raghavendra Swamiji and Munro incident. It is 100% > true that Munro visualised the divine presence of > our > Swamiji. But should we extend this phenomenon to > say, that he spoke to Munro in fluent English? > > > > Shrinivas > HAVANUR > > > ( Haridasa Mahiti > Sanchayana ) > > > > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail - > only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail./ > Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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