Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Dear Sri Krishnabhakthas, On this auspicious occasion of Vijaya Dashami, with the blessings from Sri Hari Vayu Gurugalu, I would like to forward the procedure of Deva Puje paddathi for beginners who wish to learn Madhva sampradaya puje paddati. There are few points to NOTE: 1. Though I have mentioned in the first posting itself in the PREFACE that it is essential that brahmachari & grahasthas perform devara puje paddati, few dvaita list members did not notice it or this was not clear. 2. Only devotees who had Manthropadesha, learnt the Sukthas/Mantras from a guru can perform devara puje. 3. There may be some typos, which need to be proofed. There may be " shabdadoshas " in the postings which has to be corrected. It should be noted that Mantras/shlokas are very sensitive & one has to chant & pronounce the mantras properly. I posted without proofing. 4. Finally, if anyone finds the procedure, typos, error etc... or if I am missing anything here, please write to the list with the corrected version, suggestions. Thankyou.... http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001094.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001095.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001096.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001097.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001098.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001099.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001100.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001101.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001102.html http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001103.html USERNAME & PASSWORD: dvaita Hari sarvothama, vAyu Jeevothama, Shobha Srinivasan parameshvara bhaktirnAma niravadhika ananta anavadya kalyANaguNatva GYAnapUrvakaH svAtmAtmIya samasta vastubhyo aneka guNAdhiko antarAya sahasrenApya pratibaddo nirantara premapravAhaH ------------- a verse from Nyaya Sudha Devotion to the Lord is that continuously surging flood of deep love & attachment to the Lord of the Universe, which is impregnable by any amount of obstacles encountered in its march. It should be of such a quality & texture as would transcend all other forms of love which one may bear towards one's own self, or to his nearest & dearest ones in life, or to his most cherished possessions. It should be founded on an unshakable intellectual & emotional conviction in the Majesty of the Lord- as the embodiment of all spiritual excellences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Sri Kesava Rao wrote on October 12, 2005 : >That was quite clear and the ones who responded did not talk >about that point, as that was not relevant. Surely lot of effort >went into making the postings. However, the main objection was >that when the posting was from a book as it is, then it has >to be mentioned that the book is " THE SOURCE " and " NOT >REFERENCE " . The objection was in addition to " Source " & " Not Reference " , that posting did not mention that " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " that this mantra should be learnt from a Guru. >Also in the preface, it is mentioned that it is in >accordance with tantrasArasangraha and PadyamAla, but the same >author has mentioned elsewhere about " Uchchishta Ganapathy " (In > " Sri Vinayaka Chaturthi Katha & Greatness of Sri Ganesha " ). > " Uchchishta Ganapathy " is not according to TantrasArasangraha >and PadyamAla and even more so, it is tAmasika mode of upAsana. >This raises serious doubts about the reliability of the author. Regarding Uchchishta Ganapathy, the author just mentioned that there are 32 types of Ganapathys & he had just named this as one of the them. The author did not mention anywhere that upasana of Uchchishta Ganapathi is to be done. Please check this url http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001052.html. This Uchchishta Ganapathy name was not mentioned during Sri Vinayaka Chathurthi puje paddati. > There may be " shabdadoshas " in the postings... >Not " may be " , but as pointed out in the list, there are. >For proofing this, a more reliable book is needed as using >the same book will not help at all. This book contains both English & Sanskrit scripted shlokas. I did look up for errors or printing mistakes in the book, atleast in first few pages, I found found none. But I did not check the whole book. As you had pointed out like " Prabhujayeth " (should be prapUjayet.h), yes, this is the error. If there are errors in the postings, it may be due to my typo error also. Again, if anyone finds the procedure, typos, error etc... or if I am missing anything here, please write to the list with the corrected version, suggestions. Best Wishes, Shobha Srinivasan >Kesava Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 ============================== MESSAGE EDITED BY MODERATORS May I request the members to continue this discussion in one of the two VMS mailing lists and not both. Please also refrain from having discussions in multiple mailing lists - in this case, Satsangha_NE. It becomes very unmanageable and at some point, discussion will be taken out of context if one person responds in a specific e-mail group which is not d by everyone. Thanks for your understanding. ================================ In Satsangha_NE , <srinivasans@c...> wrote: > > However, the main objection was > >that when the posting was from a book as it is, then it has > >to be mentioned that the book is " THE SOURCE " and " NOT > >REFERENCE " . > > The objection was in addition to " Source " & " Not Reference " , > that posting did not mention that " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " that > this mantra should be learnt from a Guru. Yes, as mentioned the main objection was " reference " and in addition there were other objections. The purpose of pointing out the objections is to " iteratively correct and improve " . It does not mean that " only error-free versions have to be given " , as none of us is perfect. Only Sri Hari is. The 'tAratamya' is given, with us humans making many times more mistakes than the ones above us(manushhyottamas). Sometimes, the objections may not be valid (as the objectors are also ordinary humans). Then counter-objections can be raised against such objections, in the same list where such objections were raised originally. The counter-objections are mainly of 2 kinds - 1. Those which just question why similar objections were not raised in other instances. These don't serve any purpose, as they don't take away the validity of the objections. There may be several reaons why they were not raised in other cases like not seeing them, not finding time when they were posted, not having enough info, not feeling confident to raise the objections in those cases, etc. 2. Those which bring in some reasoning why the objections are not valid. These are quite welcome. The discussions are always open. > > " Uchchishta Ganapathy " is not according to TantrasArasangraha > >and PadyamAla and even more so, it is tAmasika mode of upAsana. > >This raises serious doubts about the reliability of the author. > > Regarding Uchchishta Ganapathy, the author just mentioned that > there are 32 types of Ganapathys & he had just named this as one of the > them. That is wrong. No where in the accepted scriptures is it mentioned that Uchchishta Ganapathy is one of the forms of " Umaputra Ganapati " . > The author did not mention anywhere that upasana of Uchchishta > Ganapathi is to be done. Please check this url > http://dvaita.info/pipermail/dvaita-list_dvaita.info/2005-September/001052.html. > > This Uchchishta Ganapathy name was not mentioned during Sri Vinayaka > Chathurthi puje paddati. Need not be. The very anusandhAna that Uchchishta Ganapathy is one of Ganesha's forms is very damaging. The name itself indicates the upAsana. It is not one of the forms of Ganapati. As the name indicates, people who worship " this form " , put as naivedya " Uchchhishhta " (or the food left over after one eats and thus contaminated with the person's saliva) and then they may also tie Ganapathy saying that they will free him only if he frees them from the troubles and so on. Even mentioning such a name is very inauspicious. > This book contains both English & Sanskrit scripted shlokas. I did look up > for errors or printing mistakes in the book, atleast in first few pages, I > found found none. There are errors in the first few itself (they may be typos or printing errors). I looked at " brahmapArastotra " (which is for obtaining pUjAdhikAra) and it needs quite a few corrections. With Vijayadashami wishes, Kesava Rao > Shobha Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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