TMYP !!! Sri 1008 Satyadhyana Teertharu - Charitre [Part-6] !!!

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Namaskara,

 

My sincere apologies. Pleaes correct the para no one in Chandrika Mandanam [Part-6].

Chandrika Mandanam Continued…..

 

While delivering his discourse in front of the huge crowd at Padmasarovar Swamiji has discussed some important topics, which proves that what written in the CHANDRIKA MANDANAM is nothing, but utter false.

Please read the underlined CHANDRIKA MANDANAM as CHANDRIKA KHANDANAM.

 

I am really sorry for the typo mistake.

 

!!! Haraye Namaha !!!

On 4/30/08, Kale Balkrishna <kale1972 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

!!! Sri Gurubhyo Namaha !!!!!! Sri Paramagurubhyo Namaha !!!!!! Srimad Anadateertha Bhagavatpadacharya Gurubhyonamaha !!!

!!! Sri 1008 Satyadhyana Teertha Gurubhyonamaha !!!

 

Namaskara Sri Haribhaktas,

 

Today's translation was the toughest I have done till now. It took almost 4 hours to write just 4-5 paragraphs. Before you all read this post I request the learned members to read this post thoroughly and correct me wherever I went wrong. I may not be able to translate or understand what was written in original Marathi book properly which may result in wrong translation or understanding of mine. I take this mistake on my head and apologize well in advance. Still there are more 4 pages left for the same topic " Chandrika Mandanam " . I am able to just translate 1 page today that too with great care and difficulty. I have referred Sanskrit-English dictionary / Marathi-English dictionary before arriving at this final shape which is visible below. I sincerely request everybody to post his or her views in case you find anything incorrect or wrong.

 

!!! Haraye Namaha !!!

Chandrika Mandanam Continued…..

 

While delivering his discourse in front of the huge crowd at Padmasarovar Swamiji has discussed some important topics, which proves that what written in the CHANDRIKA MANDANAM is nothing, but utter false.

This is how the discourse goes

Advaita : Advaita teaches that Jiva and Bramha are inseparable. It is pretended as Tatvamasi. But this is totally against the shastras and does not have any solid proof to prove the same. Not only this but it ultimately proves that it is Dwaita only. How it is, let us discuss further.

Tatvamasi, Aham Bramhasmi : " Tvam – Aham " words which are from Upanishad wrongly understood by Advaita and prove to be scanty understanding of the intelligence. For this reason this words proved to be inseparable, because which are separate cannot become one.

 

Say for example if we examine these words Yajamana – Prastara: If we pronounce these two words Yajamana (person) and Prastara (stone/rock) and find out the exact meaning which does not seem to have any similarity. They are two separate things and cannot become one. For this reason the meaning of " Tatvamasi " which is equal to Alpajna Vishista Chaitanya (in real life it is person and in this example Stone) cannot be equated with Sarvajnya Vishista Chaitanya (in real life it is Brahma and in this example it is person). This proves that we the human beings can never ever become equal to Brahma.

 

Advaitis may oppose this and may not accept this. According to their definition " tat " and " tvam " words and " Aham " and " Brahma " words represents " Chaitanya " (intelligence). They teach that these words have similarity between them so it is not separate for them. But this is also not correct because we cannot equate the meaning of words as per our convenience and situation. Where as the real meaning of " tat " means " under his control " and " tvam " means " you are under control of him (Brahma). " . " Aham Brahmasmi: means " I am under his control " / " I cannot live without him " / " He is always with me " . That's why it is proved that Jiva and Bramha are not same and equal. Our Srimadacharya also informed us that Jiva and Bramha are real. God's presence can be found everywhere and that is why he is called " Eko Devaha Sarva Bhuteshu Gudaha Sarvatra Vyapi Sarva Bhutantaratma Karmadhakshya Sarvabhutadivasi Sakshi Cheto Kevalo Nirgunascha " etc… The word Nirguna used here does not mean that he is Sarva-guna-shunya. Because the proof of his Sakshitva Sarvabhutadhivasatva Karmadhakshyatva Devatva Tridadiguna Vishistatva has been described before describing him as Nirguna. Where as the meaning of Nirguna word here exactly means he is above all and free from Satva / Raja and Tama gunas. Sri Adi Shankarachaya has also explained the same in his Bhashya but it is mis-understood by others.

 

There are many proofs available for prove that for Jiva and Bramha are Saguna (real). For example " Vishvam Satyam Maghavana " (Rigveda 22-4-12). (The other meaning of Maghavana means belonging to or ruled by Indra). This mantra proves that the whole world is real. This also proves that the things within the world are also real and not unreal (false). Sri Vidyaranya has explained this in a different way. He has added Karma word in front of Vishwa. Which means your Karma is real and not unreal. Even though his words does not prove the world is real but it says that the Karma made by Indradi Devatas is real. Even Mahabharata proves us that the qualities by which god have been praised by his Guna and Dharma are real. This all proves that the Jiva and Bramha's dharma are not unreal but real, which ultimately proves to us that JIVA AND ISHA cannot become one. When we take into considerations all these it is not only proved but real that we can never equalise Jiva and Bramha as they stand to be separate and can never become one.

The other way to prove this is to just look at the Pancha Bheda summary explained to us by Srimadacharya which belons to our one of the tenets of siddhanta.

 

jIva-jaDa bheda jaDa-jaDa bheda jIva-jIva bheda jIva-Isha bheda - [This tells that Jiva and Isha (God) are separate.]

jaDa-Isha bheda

The other beauty of the above is Pancha bheda is, Jiva/Jada/Isha all of them have differences between each other but if we see minutely we will never find anything like Isha-Isha Bheda. One more proof to prove that nor Jiva or Jada can equalise Isha (the Supreme God). They are always separate.

 

!!! Haraye Namaha !!!

!!! Hari Sarvottama - Vayu Jivottama !!!

!!! Sri Bharatiramama Mukhyapranantargata Sri Krishnarpanamastu !!!

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