Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 !!! Sri Gurubhyo Namaha !!! !!! Sri Paramagurubhyo Namaha !!! !!! Srimad Anadateertha Bhagavatpadacharya Gurubhyonamaha !!! !!! Sri 1008 Satyadhyana Teertha Gurubhyonamaha !!! Namaskara Sri Haribhaktas,The one written in bold is the correction to my earlier mail I thank all the learned members for their feedback and corection. !!! Haraye Namaha !!! Chandrika Mandanam Continued….. While delivering his discourse in front of the huge crowd at Padmasarovar Swamiji has discussed some important topics, which proves that what written in the CHANDRIKA KHANDANAM is nothing, but utter false. This is how the discourse goes Advaita : Advaita teaches that Jiva and Bramha are inseparable. It is pretended as Tatvamasi. But this is totally against the shastras and does not have any solid proof to prove the same. Not only this but it ultimately proves that it is Dwaita only. How it is, let us discuss further. Tatvamasi, Aham Bramhasmi : "Tvam – Aham" words which are from Upanishad wrongly understood by Advaita and prove to be scanty understanding of the intelligence. For this reason this words proved to be inseparable, because which are separate cannot become one. Say for example if we examine these words Yajamana – Prastara: In this case, in a yaaga (that possibly lasts for several days), if the yajamAna is for some reason not available, he is substituted with darbha and the yaaga is continued without a break. But this does not make a person equivalent to a darbha. Another example is another example is " siMho mANavakaH " . In these examples, there is no identity between the two words used but it is a " lAxaNika " prayoga. In this example a brahmin(mANavaka) is said to have qualities of a lion like majesty, ferocity etc. in both cases there is no identity between those two words. Similarly Vedic statements that apparently teach Advaita in fact teach similarity etc. between two objects.This proves that we the human beings can never ever become equal to Brahma. Advaitis may oppose this and may not accept this. According to their definition "tat" and "tvam" words and "Aham" and "Brahma" words represents "Chaitanya" (intelligence). They teach that these words have similarity between them so it is not separate for them. But this is also not correct because we cannot equate the meaning of words as per our convenience and situation. Where as the real meaning of "tat" means "under his control" and "tvam" means "you are under control of him (Brahma).". "Aham Brahmasmi: means "I am under his control" / "I cannot live without him"/ " He is always with me". That's why it is proved that Jiva and Bramha are not same and equal. Our Srimadacharya also informed us that Jiva and Bramha are real. God's presence can be found everywhere and that is why he is called "Eko Devaha Sarva Bhuteshu Gudaha Sarvatra Vyapi Sarva Bhutantaratma Karmadhakshya Sarvabhutadivasi Sakshi Cheto Kevalo Nirgunascha" etc… The word Nirguna used here does not mean that he is Sarva-guna-shunya. Because the proof of his Sakshitva Sarvabhutadhivasatva Karmadhakshyatva Devatva Tridadiguna Vishistatva has been described before describing him as Nirguna. Where as the meaning of Nirguna word here exactly means he is above all and free from Satva / Raja and Tama gunas. Sri Adi Shankarachaya has also explained the same in his Bhashya but it is mis-understood by others. There are many proofs available for prove that for Jiva and Bramha are Saguna (real). For example "Vishvam Satyam Maghavana" (Rigveda 22-4-12). (The other meaning of Maghavana means belonging to or ruled by Indra). This mantra proves that the whole world is real. This also proves that the things within the world are also real and not unreal (false). Sri Vidyaranya has explained this in a different way. He has added Karma word in front of Vishwa. Which means your Karma is real and not unreal. Even though his words does not prove the world is real but it says that the Karma made by Indradi Devatas is real. Even Mahabharata proves us that the qualities by which god have been praised by his Guna and Dharma are real. This all proves that the Jiva and Bramha's dharma are not unreal but real, which ultimately proves to us that JIVA AND ISHA cannot become one. When we take into considerations all these it is not only proved but real that we can never equalise Jiva and Bramha as they stand to be separate and can never become one. The other way to prove this is to just look at the Pancha Bheda summary explained to us by Srimadacharya which belons to our one of the tenets of siddhanta. 1. jIva-jaDa bheda 2. jaDa-jaDa bheda 3. jIva-jIva bheda 4. jIva-Isha bheda (This tells that Jiva and Brahma can never become one) 5. jaDa-Isha bheda The other beauty of the above is Pancha bheda is, Jiva/Jada/Isha all of them have differences between each other but if we see minutely we will never find anything like Isha-Isha Bheda. One more proof to prove that nor Jiva or Jada can equalize Isha (the Supreme God). They are always separate. !!! Haraye Namaha !!!!!! Hari Sarvottama - Vayu Jivottama !!! !!! Sri Bharatiramama Mukhyapranantargata Sri Krishnarpanamastu !!! -- Kale Balkrishna Mobile : +91-9849042501 visit my blog : http://kalebala.wordpress.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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