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How awful, Victor! Has he been unhappy for very long?

 

 

 

 

> Victor Torrico <vtorrico

>

> Elijah, our eleven year old grandchild is threatening

> suicide. I don't have a clue how we can help him.

>

> Victor

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Laura,

 

His mom & dad divorced about a year ago and he and his

brother and sister live one week with mom and then one week

with dad. This would seem to be a large part of the

problem.

 

He is a perfectionist, which is a family trait, that started

with my dad and passed through me to my son and to Elijah.

He is also given to quite a bit of exaggeration.

 

I'm going to suggest to Tom, our son, that he spend a day in

the woods exclusively with Elijah and just hang out

together. Perhaps, I might do the same thing later and just

fly down to Austin where they live.

 

Victor

 

Quoting Laura Olshansky <editor:

> " Laura Olshansky " <editor

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> How awful, Victor! Has he been unhappy for very long?

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> > Victor Torrico <vtorrico

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> > Elijah, our eleven year old grandchild is threatening

> > suicide. I don't have a clue how we can help him.

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> > Victor

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Dear Victor,

 

> He is a perfectionist, which is a family trait, that started

> with my dad and passed through me to my son and to Elijah.

> He is also given to quite a bit of exaggeration.

 

A friend of mine has a six year old son who started

talking about killing himself a few months ago. He's

also a perfectionist and in his case, that seems to be

a big part of what's bothering him.

 

> I'm going to suggest to Tom, our son, that he spend a day in

> the woods exclusively with Elijah and just hang out

> together. Perhaps, I might do the same thing later and just

> fly down to Austin where they live.

 

Sounds good to me. I have great confidence in the power

of love as all-purpose medicine.

 

And if part of his hurt is because he's being hard on himself,

well, I would think the love and approval of father and grandfather

are the best possible medicine for a boy who's suffering that

kind of pain.

 

Love,

 

Laura

 

 

 

 

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Victor Torrico <vtorrico

<Realization >

Monday, February 07, 2000 7:41 AM

Re: Sadness

 

 

> Victor Torrico <vtorrico

>

> Laura,

>

> His mom & dad divorced about a year ago and he and his

> brother and sister live one week with mom and then one week

> with dad. This would seem to be a large part of the

> problem.

>

> He is a perfectionist, which is a family trait, that started

> with my dad and passed through me to my son and to Elijah.

> He is also given to quite a bit of exaggeration.

>

> I'm going to suggest to Tom, our son, that he spend a day in

> the woods exclusively with Elijah and just hang out

> together. Perhaps, I might do the same thing later and just

> fly down to Austin where they live.

>

> Victor

>

> Quoting Laura Olshansky <editor:

> > " Laura Olshansky " <editor

> >

> > How awful, Victor! Has he been unhappy for very long?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Victor Torrico <vtorrico

> > >

> > > Elijah, our eleven year old grandchild is threatening

> > > suicide. I don't have a clue how we can help him.

> > >

> > > Victor

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Dear Victor,

 

At 06:57 AM 2/7/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Victor Torrico <vtorrico

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>Elijah, our eleven year old grandchild is threatening

>suicide. I don't have a clue how we can help him.

 

Do you know the reason(s) why? If not, it's time to find out.

 

Start by explaining that when a person dies suffering, that suffering

doesn't go away, but gets MUCH stronger and more intense once the person is

dead (I've heard this verified by several people who have had contact in

one way or another with the " spirit " or subtle body of the person who

killed themselves). Thus, eliminate suicide for him as a way of " escape. "

 

Then encourage him to deal with his problems. Be compassionate, lend a

listening ear, listen and *really hear* what he has to say. Most people

who threaten suicide really badly need someone to talk to, somebody that

will really listen with full attention -- they feel alone and unheard.

Give him your undivided attention for as long as he needs it.

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

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