Laura/Re:thoughts

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Dear Laura,

 

At 03:58 PM 2/13/2000 -0500, you wrote:

> " Laura Olshansky " <editor

 

>I'm trying ... oops... I mean....

 

My entire experience tells me that this " shift " happens through

*understanding*... and that's all. Perhaps things like Kundalini can also

bring it about... but Kundalini is again an effortless thing.

Understanding is an effortless thing.

 

Something about " it " involves a deeper understanding apart from thought.

Beyond that I know nothing, except the " shift " is effortless, and can be

" gradual. " There comes a point of completion where there is nowhere left

to " shift to, " but the shift can be gradual. There can be

remembrance/forgetting (I'm using these terms loosely),

remembrance/forgetting... and there comes a point where one is established

in pure Awareness, with no deviation. Jerry Katz explains this pretty well

in his " nonduality FAQ " at http://www.nonduality.com. He outlines three

stages - first, the nondual is " intuited. " Next, it's " recognized " (and

this is the unstable stage). Then, one becomes stably established in the

nondual state. I believe this was Jerry's experience.

 

So it can also be a hindrance to " be on the lookout " for some incredible

" explosion. " Again, that's looking toward the future, and toward something

that may never occur.

 

My experience tells me that thought moves, not time. The past is memory,

the collection of all thoughts " that have occurred " (thought is a movement

or a disturbance of awareness). The future is a projection arising from

the past (or, you could call it a projection of desire).

 

It's becoming more and more clear here that time is a fantasy. It " moves "

from now to now to now to now. If that's the only way it " moves, " is that

a movement at all?

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

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