Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 At 12:22 AM 2/20/2000 -0800, you wrote: > " Cassandra " <cassandra > >It didn't make me happy at all as what I practice isn't New Age. What I >know about what I wrote about came from real experiences. It hurt to be >dismissed by a total stranger as if I was some flake person parroting >something I heard which is the way he used the term " New Ager " , when that >could not be further from the truth. I speak about how I live everyday and >the Spiritual experiences I keep having and growing from, as well as the >personal knowledge of doing Out Of Body myself. It is Ancient knowledge >that Souls leave one's bodies for the body to truly rest. I also have >personal experience in this as well. Anyone who wakes up and feels like >they didn't really sleep knows how it feels if they don't Out Of Body. I >don't mind being disagreed with. I simply don't enjoy it when someone makes >an incorrect assumption about me, makes a personal attack against me. Was your name even mentioned? I don't know who you are, why would I personally attack you? I know nothing but your first name and Email address... how did you get the idea this was a personal attack? What possible motive might I (or anyone else) have for " attacking " a total stranger? That said, I apologize if anyone was offended. As far as I can see it, I was just offering an opinion on the matter. Because it wasn't " pretty " or " flowery, " someone got upset. If you want political correctness, you might be better off with " me " in your killfile. I don't beat around the bush, I don't sprinkle rosewater and sentimentality on everyone. I speak my mind and heart exactly as they are. If this bothers you, then by all means use and enjoy the killfile. With Love, Tim ----- Sum Ergo Sum Visit " The Core " Website at http://coresite.cjb.net - Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's other pages are at http://core.vdirect.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 I don't so much get upset, as I killfile so as to not be bothered again. Not you of course, the person who is so intent of supporting the horrible Emperor Justinian. Cassie - " Laura Olshansky " <editor <Realization > Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:42 AM Re: Cassandra/Re: Rudeness > " Laura Olshansky " <editor > > Dear Cassie, > > > It didn't make me happy at all as what I practice isn't New Age. What I > > know about what I wrote about came from real experiences. It hurt to be > > dismissed by a total stranger as if I was some flake person parroting > > something I heard which is the way he used the term " New Ager " , > > when that could not be further from the truth. > > I know how this feels -- yuck. It has happened to me too. I'm sorry. > > > I speak about how I live everyday and > > the Spiritual experiences I keep having and growing from, as well as the > > personal knowledge of doing Out Of Body myself. It is Ancient knowledge > > that Souls leave one's bodies for the body to truly rest. I also have > > personal experience in this as well. > > I have a great respect for personal experience. In fact, of all the categories > of article we publish on the website, I think accounts of people's personal > experiences are most important. > > I would very much like to hear about your experiences in detail. I hope you > still feel comfortable writing about them here. > > My main job as moderator is to maintain that comfort level for people. I'll do > whatever is necessary to accomplish that. > > >I simply don't enjoy it when someone makes an incorrect assumption > > about me, makes a personal attack against me. > > No, it's awful when it happens. But it shows that the attack *really* has > nothing to do with you. > > > How that may be considered fun, who knows. > > Heh, you're right, the attack isn't fun. What I meant was, it's fun when > you've reached a point on the path where an attack like that doesn't > hurt you. You hear it, and understand it, but it doesn't hurt and you > don't get angry. And if what you feel is compassion, that's super > fun. > > Maybe it sounds like I'm talking about a superhuman saintly frame of > mind. But really, I'm not. We all feel this way (sometimes) when the > attack comes from a little kid. > > Sometimes small children get upset about something that's > beyond anybody's control -- they want to be home *now* when > home is 30 minutes away, or they don't want to wear their > coat and don't want to be cold either, etc. etc. They lash out > at the nearest adult in a raging temper tantrum. Sometimes of > course kids *do* make us angry, but often when this happens > you don't feel the least bit of anger back. You feel a mixture > of humor (you have to restrain yourself from laughing) and > compassion. > > Well, what I'm suggesting is, sometimes when adults get > angry, if we really saw what's going on, we would react exactly > the same way we do with the three-year-old. > > Laura > > > > ------ > Looking for the best new sites on the Web? eTour.com is a FREE > service that brings great websites right to you - matched to your > own unique interests. It's like having a personal remote control > for the Internet! > http://click./1/1675/5/_/_/_/951060938/ > ------ > > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 - " Cassandra " <cassandra <Realization > Sunday, February 20, 2000 4:47 PM Re: Cassandra/Re: Rudeness > " Cassandra " <cassandra > > I don't so much get upset, as I killfile so as to not be bothered again. > Not you of course, the person who is so intent of supporting the horrible > Emperor Justinian. > > > Cassie > - > " Laura Olshansky " <editor > <Realization > > Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:42 AM > Re: Cassandra/Re: Rudeness > > > > " Laura Olshansky " <editor > > > > Dear Cassie, > > > > > It didn't make me happy at all as what I practice isn't New Age. What I > > > know about what I wrote about came from real experiences. It hurt to be > > > dismissed by a total stranger as if I was some flake person parroting > > > something I heard which is the way he used the term " New Ager " , > > > when that could not be further from the truth. > > > > I know how this feels -- yuck. It has happened to me too. I'm sorry. > > > > > I speak about how I live everyday and > > > the Spiritual experiences I keep having and growing from, as well as the > > > personal knowledge of doing Out Of Body myself. It is Ancient knowledge > > > that Souls leave one's bodies for the body to truly rest. I also have > > > personal experience in this as well. > > > > I have a great respect for personal experience. In fact, of all the > categories > > of article we publish on the website, I think accounts of people's > personal > > experiences are most important. > > > > I would very much like to hear about your experiences in detail. I hope > you > > still feel comfortable writing about them here. > > > > My main job as moderator is to maintain that comfort level for people. > I'll do > > whatever is necessary to accomplish that. > > > > >I simply don't enjoy it when someone makes an incorrect assumption > > > about me, makes a personal attack against me. > > > > No, it's awful when it happens. But it shows that the attack *really* has > > nothing to do with you. > > > > > How that may be considered fun, who knows. > > > > Heh, you're right, the attack isn't fun. What I meant was, it's fun when > > you've reached a point on the path where an attack like that doesn't > > hurt you. You hear it, and understand it, but it doesn't hurt and you > > don't get angry. And if what you feel is compassion, that's super > > fun. > > > > Maybe it sounds like I'm talking about a superhuman saintly frame of > > mind. But really, I'm not. We all feel this way (sometimes) when the > > attack comes from a little kid. > > > > Sometimes small children get upset about something that's > > beyond anybody's control -- they want to be home *now* when > > home is 30 minutes away, or they don't want to wear their > > coat and don't want to be cold either, etc. etc. They lash out > > at the nearest adult in a raging temper tantrum. Sometimes of > > course kids *do* make us angry, but often when this happens > > you don't feel the least bit of anger back. You feel a mixture > > of humor (you have to restrain yourself from laughing) and > > compassion. > > > > Well, what I'm suggesting is, sometimes when adults get > > angry, if we really saw what's going on, we would react exactly > > the same way we do with the three-year-old. > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Looking for the best new sites on the Web? eTour.com is a FREE > > service that brings great websites right to you - matched to your > > own unique interests. It's like having a personal remote control > > for the Internet! > > http://click./1/1675/5/_/_/_/951060938/ > > ------ > > > > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > > > Email addresses: > > Post message: Realization > > Un: Realization- > > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > > http://www.realization.org > > ................................................ > > > > > > -------- ------ > > > > -------- ------ > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Hi, Cassandra Just wanted to let you know that there is another person on the listserve that understands your reaction and feelings to Tim's post. My viewpoint is that one must maintain a certain balance and a high sensitivity to be able to travel asterally ( I call it traveling between planes). Anything that upsets that balance or causes a negative emotional balance can be hazardous. Tim is perfectly entitled to his point of view, however, if his manner or method of communication makes you uncomfortable, you are entitled to not maintain dialog with him. Some people harmonize and some people do not. I love your name. You probably know the history of it. Cas·san·dra (k?-san'dra)n. Greek Mythology. A daughter of Priam, the king of Troy, endowed with the gift of prophecy but fated by Apollo never to be believed. Cyberhug, Carol - " Cassandra " <cassandra <Realization > Sunday, February 20, 2000 4:47 PM Re: Cassandra/Re: Rudeness > " Cassandra " <cassandra > > I don't so much get upset, as I killfile so as to not be bothered again. > Not you of course, the person who is so intent of supporting the horrible > Emperor Justinian. > > > Cassie > - > " Laura Olshansky " <editor > <Realization > > Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:42 AM > Re: Cassandra/Re: Rudeness > > > > " Laura Olshansky " <editor > > > > Dear Cassie, > > > > > It didn't make me happy at all as what I practice isn't New Age. What I > > > know about what I wrote about came from real experiences. It hurt to be > > > dismissed by a total stranger as if I was some flake person parroting > > > something I heard which is the way he used the term " New Ager " , > > > when that could not be further from the truth. > > > > I know how this feels -- yuck. It has happened to me too. I'm sorry. > > > > > I speak about how I live everyday and > > > the Spiritual experiences I keep having and growing from, as well as the > > > personal knowledge of doing Out Of Body myself. It is Ancient knowledge > > > that Souls leave one's bodies for the body to truly rest. I also have > > > personal experience in this as well. > > > > I have a great respect for personal experience. In fact, of all the > categories > > of article we publish on the website, I think accounts of people's > personal > > experiences are most important. > > > > I would very much like to hear about your experiences in detail. I hope > you > > still feel comfortable writing about them here. > > > > My main job as moderator is to maintain that comfort level for people. > I'll do > > whatever is necessary to accomplish that. > > > > >I simply don't enjoy it when someone makes an incorrect assumption > > > about me, makes a personal attack against me. > > > > No, it's awful when it happens. But it shows that the attack *really* has > > nothing to do with you. > > > > > How that may be considered fun, who knows. > > > > Heh, you're right, the attack isn't fun. What I meant was, it's fun when > > you've reached a point on the path where an attack like that doesn't > > hurt you. You hear it, and understand it, but it doesn't hurt and you > > don't get angry. And if what you feel is compassion, that's super > > fun. > > > > Maybe it sounds like I'm talking about a superhuman saintly frame of > > mind. But really, I'm not. We all feel this way (sometimes) when the > > attack comes from a little kid. > > > > Sometimes small children get upset about something that's > > beyond anybody's control -- they want to be home *now* when > > home is 30 minutes away, or they don't want to wear their > > coat and don't want to be cold either, etc. etc. They lash out > > at the nearest adult in a raging temper tantrum. Sometimes of > > course kids *do* make us angry, but often when this happens > > you don't feel the least bit of anger back. You feel a mixture > > of humor (you have to restrain yourself from laughing) and > > compassion. > > > > Well, what I'm suggesting is, sometimes when adults get > > angry, if we really saw what's going on, we would react exactly > > the same way we do with the three-year-old. > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Looking for the best new sites on the Web? eTour.com is a FREE > > service that brings great websites right to you - matched to your > > own unique interests. It's like having a personal remote control > > for the Internet! > > http://click./1/1675/5/_/_/_/951060938/ > > ------ > > > > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > > > Email addresses: > > Post message: Realization > > Un: Realization- > > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > > http://www.realization.org > > ................................................ > > > > > > -------- ------ > > > > -------- ------ > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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