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Dear Tim,

 

> You're saying that you don't want egos to be challenged.

 

Hurting people doesn't challenge anybody's ego. It just

exercises your own and makes the other person hold

on tighter to theirs.

 

Arguing about ideas can't get rid of anybody's ego because

ideas are purely within the realm of the conceptual mind.

 

People usually get invested in proving themselves right when

they argue. Pure ego stuff.

 

> That's asking a lot... you're asking me to be phony and inauthentic.

 

I'm astonished that you would write this.

 

I thought you thought you're the Self. You're not your feelings. Feelings are

maya. Body-mind stuff. Illusions.

 

How could expressing those illusionary feelings be authentic? How

could refraining from expressing them be inauthentic?

 

That was response number one. Here's response number two:

 

You say authenticity of expression is so important that you

should indulge it even if it hurts other people's feelings.

 

I challenge you to give me a *reason* why this is so. I bet you can't.

 

Here's response number three:

 

If authenticity of expression is so important that it should be indulged

even when it hurts other people, then why doesn't this principle

extend to physical action?

 

In other words, if you feel like murdering me right now, why shouldn't you?

 

If that's what you feel like doing, refraining from murdering me is

inauthentic, isn't it?

 

I challenge you to give me a rational argument why authenticity trumps other

people's feelings when words are involved, but it doesn't when physical

damage is involved. I bet you can't.

 

> Would you please remove me from this list? I can't even get onto

> . Get me out of this honey-dripping, sugary sweet hell!

 

I didn't put you on this list, and I'm not going to take you off.

 

I'll be sorry to see you go. I hope you'll come back. You'll always

be welcome.

 

Laura

 

 

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Tim Gerchmez <core

<Realization >

Sunday, February 20, 2000 8:29 PM

Re: EVERYBODY/rudeness and kindness

 

 

> Tim Gerchmez <core

>

> At 01:16 PM 2/20/2000 -0500, you wrote:

> > " Laura Olshansky " <editor

>

> >This is such a simple thing I'm asking. Please, let's make this forum

> >a nice place to talk, a friendly warm place.

>

> That's asking a lot... you're asking me to be phony and inauthentic.

> You're saying " if you're angry, pretend to be sweetsy-sweetsy instead. "

> You're saying that you don't want egos to be challenged. You're looking

> for a love-fest. You want the ego to be catered to on a silver tray.

>

> That ain't reality, that's YOUR dream! Don't push it on 'me!'

>

> If you want a friendly, warm, politically correct, phony list, that's fine.

> But it won't be a list with " me " on it.

>

> Actually I'm trying to right now, but Onelist.com is apparently

> all fucked up (gasp! such language!).

>

> Would you please remove me from this list? I can't even get onto

> . Get me out of this honey-dripping, sugary sweet hell!

>

> Tim

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