Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Dear Dan, At 04:28 PM 4/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >>T: >>What is it that transcends the mind? How could the mind possibly know? > >D: Even funnier, there is no mind to know anything. The mind appears and disappears in consciousness - while it is apparently present, it could be said to " exist, " in the same way that a dream has temporary " reality " until it ends. The important point is that it's " a mind, " not " my mind. " If there is an " I, " it consists of pure " spirit " having nothing to do with names or forms. Time is relative to the mind, and space is relative to the body. Without the mind where is time, and without the body, where is space? Some say the Grand Canyon is " big. " Big compared to what? > Nothing is known, there is nothing to be known, > and there is no knower to know anything. Or: known, knower and knowledge are one in *knowing* (which again appears and disappears in consciousness). At my level of understanding, there is no perceiver or perceived; *perception* itself is real enough, but only *present* perception. One might argue that a perceiver is necessary for perception; I would say that it is just not so. Before perception, there is neither perceiver nor perceived. The *instant* perception takes place, in the *NOW*, perceiver and perceived are " sucked into " the perceptual void and vanish, and only pure perception or " sensing " (without memory-based identification) remains. Probably a poor description of what I observe, but it's the best I can do :-) > This 'nothing' to be known, is to be known *now* > as nothing, without any knowledge of the knowing. Someone once told me " knowledge binds. " My response now would be " only if there is attachment to knowledge. " Knowledge, memory, desire, thought... these things bind only those who are attached - attachment binds. The witness is never bound, only the " person. " And since the person is unreal, there is no such thing as bondage. Bondage is a mind-made thing, due to delusive or incorrect ideas. Correct the perspective and everything else naturally falls into place. Love *IS*, Tim ----- The past is memory, the future imaginary. Be Here Now. Visit " The Core " Website at http://coresite.cjb.net - Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's other pages are at: http://core.vdirect.net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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