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Hi,

 

Sometime last year, this got posted over cyber-space through this entity.

 

May have some interest here.

 

Cheers

 

Sandeep

 

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I wonder whether anybody here noticed that the speed of Light thought to be THE constant for Life, has been breached.

 

On the breaking of the "ultimate" barrier, the speed of light currently sanctified at 186,000 miles per sec, I was in Europe few months back when the London Sunday Times carried a report on an experiment carried out at the NEC Research Institute in Princeton, USA where "light pulco" has been accelerated to 300 times their normal velocity of 186,00 miles per sec.

 

The details of the findings I am told had been submitted to the International Scientific journals "Nature" and "Science" for verification and validation before open publication.

 

This validation and verification took place in the last month.

 

The experiment has been validated and reported by the Science magazines and journals, including BBC, Washington Post and other leading newspapers. The implications of this finding, as I said are not mind- boggling but mind-annihilating.The Human Genome project is nothing in comparison.For the experiment showed that light pulse existed in two places at once.In effect, it is "leaping forward in time" (Sunday times)What is making the scientists aghast is that "if light can travel forward in time, it could carry information".

 

This (carriage of information) is being hotly argued against, by the rest of the scientific community, but that to me is like a Scientific DNS(Dark Night of the Soul, where all your life long dearly cherished beliefs are getting exposed for what they are. Obviously you are pissed off, in agony)

 

The breaching of the speed of Light, would breach one of the basic principles in Physics-Law of causality which is based on the premise that cause must come before effect.

It would also shatter Einstein's theory of Relativity." (Sunday Times)

However for me, the Princeton experiment is completely aligned to the premise or concept that mystics have indicated for the last 5,000 years, that everything that has happened, is happening, is to happen, have all already happened.

And thus has anything ever happened?

 

Is there anything like a cause, an effect or are both "existing" together simultaneously?

 

Is the totality of the Picture already IS?

 

If yes, the concept of karma goes out of the window, the concept of effort which really is a process of becoming (from an un-enlightened state, you meditate or whatever your favorite poison, towards enlightenment), all that is OUT.

 

 

Relating to this scientific development, else where in cyber space, a question was posed to me.

 

Thomas:

Sandeep, I would be interested in how you think this neutralizes the concepts of karma and enlightenment.

 

My conceptual two bit of a reply...........

 

 

AhaaLet's take the concept of enlightenment, first.In the conceptual world of phenomenality, something has a meaning only on the basis of it's opposite."Good" has no meaning unless the definition of "evil" is in place and mutually agreed.Saddam and Bill Clinton may not have an mutually agreeable definition, for example.The concept of "enlightenment" has no meaning unless you define what that state is to be, (which off course is a joke) and this you define by defining what an "Un-enlightened" state is to be.After all one can only know about freedom, when one defines what bondage is and pursues to be free, by accepting that one is bound in the first place.The very pursuit perpetuating the bondage, but let's get back to the question you raised, Thomas.One then assumes that one is curently "un-enlightened" and then proceeds to adopt, swear by, "paths", "efforts", "practices", which one believes will move oneself from one state to the other.I wonder whether you see the absurdity of all this( akin a dog chasing it's own tail), but let's get back to the consequences of the breaching of the Speed of Light.When you define the two states of "un-enlightened" and a separate "enlightenemt", you are actually accepting the process of "becoming".You are "this" and you believe that you can become "that".And you assume that this "becoming" can be achieved through X, Y, Z, etc etc.With the assumption of "becoming", you give birth to the concepts of "time", as you need a postulate of "duration" in which this "becoming" is to be completed and you give birth to the concept of space, in order to cognize the "becoming" .With the birth of the concepts time and space, you give birth to the concept of the Causality, a cause, which occurs in time and gives birth to an effect, also in time and space. (X,Y,Z , can get me enlightenemnt or a Million dollars, ability to walk onwater or seduce that blonde, whatever, a cause and an effect of that cause)Now with the breaching of the speed of Light, the experiment reached 300 times the current record at Cosmic Olympics of 300,00- kms per sec, why not 30,000 times the current standard, why not 3 Million times, why not infinite times?If speed of light is actually infinite (another concept), we have only been able to recognise it as 300 times 300,000 kms per sec as of now, what you are really seeing is that there is not even a trillionth of a nanosecond difference between the starting point of light and ending point of light.Existence in two place is simultaneous, Existence in infinite points is simultaneous.(At the moment, even the team at NEC, Princeton, do not claim this is possible, but as I said earlier that is like a Scientific DNS).Cause and effect IS simultaneously.All that has happened, is happening, is to happen, has already happened.The totality of the picture, is already there, was always.Hence the postulate of time goes out of the window and with that movement is an impossibility, and with movement becoming an impossibility, the postulate of space is a joke.Ergo, "becoming" is a joke, if totality of the picture IS already.Cause, "becoming" an effect, is a joke, because there is really no cause and effect.

Causality, is thus a joke.

The states of "un-enlightenment" and "enlightement" and movement between the two, is a joke.In oneness, which is nothing but "existing" at infinite point simultaneously, who is there "un-enlightened" which is to become"enlightened"?Let's now take our good old friend- karma.The concept of karma essentialy being the consequences of a previous "self" effecting the current "self" is all based on the process of "becoming" which is a joke.In oneness, who is laying karma on whom?My right hand reaches out in love and "shakes hand" with my left hand accruing "good" karma or reaches out in anger and slaps my left hand accruing "bad" karma, it's all I, all the time, isn't it, Thomas?Dobeeee, Dobeee dooo.Sandeep