Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 (Excerpts from "The One Alone," a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >>Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. Heis neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him,whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; norcan any conceive Him with senses, knowledge, mind,intelligence or imagination. Only He can see Himself; only Hecan conceive Himself. None can know Him; only He can knowHimself. He sees Himself by Himself; He conceives Himself byHimself; He knows Himself by Himself. None other than Hecan see Him. None other than He can know Him. That whichhides Him is His oneness. None but Himself can hide Him. Theveil that hides Him is His own being. He is not within you; nor are you in Him. He does not excludeyou, nor are you excluded from Him. When you are addressedas you, do not think that you exist, with an essence andqualities and attributes; for you never existed, nor do exist, norever will exist. You have not entered into Him, nor He intoyou. Without being, your essence is with Him and in Him.Without having any identity, you are Him and He is you. If youknow yourself as nothing, then you truly know your Lord.Otherwise, you truly know Him not.That is why the utterance became permissible for Mansur Al-Hallaj when the words, "I am the Truth!" came from his lips;and for Abu Yazid Al-Bistami when he cried, "Praise be to Me,the essence, absolved of all defect!" These are not people whohave annihilated themselves in Allah; nor have they come to bein Allah. They are eternal. They never ceased to be, for theynever were, since there is only Allah's self, Allah's essence.So if someone says, "I am the Truth!," do not hear it from anyother than from the Truth Himself; for it is not a man who saysit, it is the word of Allah. That man who utters these words isnothing but an image reflected in an empty mirror, one of theinfinite attributes of Allah. The reflection is the same as thatwhich is being reflected, and the words of the image are thereflected words of the Real One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 At 9/7/2001-07:43 PM Sandeep Chatterjee wrote: ><Realization > > The One Alone > >(Excerpts from " The One Alone, " a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master > Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >> > > >Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. He >is neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him, >whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; nor This is very clear. Thank you Sandeep for the quote. ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Dear Sandeep, This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never read anything by him before. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Rob - Sandeep Chatterjee Realization Friday, September 07, 2001 12:43 PM The One Alone (Excerpts from "The One Alone," a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >>Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. Heis neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him,whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; norcan any conceive Him with senses, knowledge, mind,intelligence or imagination. Only He can see Himself; only Hecan conceive Himself. None can know Him; only He can knowHimself. He sees Himself by Himself; He conceives Himself byHimself; He knows Himself by Himself. None other than Hecan see Him. None other than He can know Him. That whichhides Him is His oneness. None but Himself can hide Him. Theveil that hides Him is His own being. He is not within you; nor are you in Him. He does not excludeyou, nor are you excluded from Him. When you are addressedas you, do not think that you exist, with an essence andqualities and attributes; for you never existed, nor do exist, norever will exist. You have not entered into Him, nor He intoyou. Without being, your essence is with Him and in Him.Without having any identity, you are Him and He is you. If youknow yourself as nothing, then you truly know your Lord.Otherwise, you truly know Him not.That is why the utterance became permissible for Mansur Al-Hallaj when the words, "I am the Truth!" came from his lips;and for Abu Yazid Al-Bistami when he cried, "Praise be to Me,the essence, absolved of all defect!" These are not people whohave annihilated themselves in Allah; nor have they come to bein Allah. They are eternal. They never ceased to be, for theynever were, since there is only Allah's self, Allah's essence.So if someone says, "I am the Truth!," do not hear it from anyother than from the Truth Himself; for it is not a man who saysit, it is the word of Allah. That man who utters these words isnothing but an image reflected in an empty mirror, one of theinfinite attributes of Allah. The reflection is the same as thatwhich is being reflected, and the words of the image are thereflected words of the Real One...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Dear Rob, Consciousness thanks Consciousness. Cheers Sandeep - Rob Sacks Realization Saturday, September 08, 2001 01:28 PM Re: The One Alone Dear Sandeep, This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never read anything by him before. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Rob - Sandeep Chatterjee Realization Friday, September 07, 2001 12:43 PM The One Alone (Excerpts from "The One Alone," a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >>Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. Heis neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him,whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; norcan any conceive Him with senses, knowledge, mind,intelligence or imagination. Only He can see Himself; only Hecan conceive Himself. None can know Him; only He can knowHimself. He sees Himself by Himself; He conceives Himself byHimself; He knows Himself by Himself. None other than Hecan see Him. None other than He can know Him. That whichhides Him is His oneness. None but Himself can hide Him. Theveil that hides Him is His own being. He is not within you; nor are you in Him. He does not excludeyou, nor are you excluded from Him. When you are addressedas you, do not think that you exist, with an essence andqualities and attributes; for you never existed, nor do exist, norever will exist. You have not entered into Him, nor He intoyou. Without being, your essence is with Him and in Him.Without having any identity, you are Him and He is you. If youknow yourself as nothing, then you truly know your Lord.Otherwise, you truly know Him not.That is why the utterance became permissible for Mansur Al-Hallaj when the words, "I am the Truth!" came from his lips;and for Abu Yazid Al-Bistami when he cried, "Praise be to Me,the essence, absolved of all defect!" These are not people whohave annihilated themselves in Allah; nor have they come to bein Allah. They are eternal. They never ceased to be, for theynever were, since there is only Allah's self, Allah's essence.So if someone says, "I am the Truth!," do not hear it from anyother than from the Truth Himself; for it is not a man who saysit, it is the word of Allah. That man who utters these words isnothing but an image reflected in an empty mirror, one of theinfinite attributes of Allah. The reflection is the same as thatwhich is being reflected, and the words of the image are thereflected words of the Real One...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 At 9/8/2001-10:58 AM Rob Sacks wrote: ><Realization > >Re: The One Alone > >Dear Sandeep, > >This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never >read anything by him before. Thank you! > >Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! > >Rob Ibn `Arabi was born in southeastern Spain in 1165 C.E. In addition to being a mystic, he was also a theologian. Around age 30 he began a life of wandering, slowly making his way toward the East. He lived at a time when Sufism was at loggerheads with the legalitarian Islam embodied by the doctors of the Law, known as the fuqaha'. According to Henry Corbin in Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn `Arabi: ....{Ibn `Arabi} made no secret of his disgust at their stupidity, ignorance, and depravity, and such an attitude was not calculated to win their favor. The tension rose, giving rise to denunciations and arrests; our shaikh was in mortal peril. At this critical moment the irreducible antagonism between the spiritual Islam of Sufism and legalitarian Islam became patent. Saved by the intervention of a friendly shaikh, Ibn `Arabi had but one concern, to flee far from Cairo and its hateful, bigoted canonists. Where was he to seek refuge? He returned to Meca (1207). Ibn `Arabi had enemies amongst the fuqaha' all this life, but he also had many important and influential supporters. He died peacefully in Damascus in 1240 surrounded by his family, friends, and his Sufi disciples. Central Themes of Ibn `Arabi's Theology · God in His Divine Essence is unknowable, yet He is free to impose limits on Himself. · When self-limited, God reveals some subset of His attributes whereby he becomes knowable. · God in any one of His numerous self-limited forms is what we humans come to know as our personal Lord, and it is with this personal Lord that we establish a relationship based on mutual love. · Not only do different religions devote themselves to different self-limited forms of God, but each individual also comes to know God in a unique and personal way. · This personal relationship with God is established through · manajat, which is a private, intimate dialogue conducted between an individual and his Lord. http://www.digiserve.com/mystic/Muslim/Ibn_Arabi/index.html ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Dear sir, I would like no longer receive messages from your group. Sincerely, Durius Nguyen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jan Sultan [swork] Verzonden: zondag 9 september 2001 15:27 Aan: Realization Onderwerp: Re: The One Alone At 9/8/2001-10:58 AM Rob Sacks wrote: ><Realization > >Re: The One Alone > >Dear Sandeep, > >This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never >read anything by him before. Thank you! > >Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! > >Rob Ibn `Arabi was born in southeastern Spain in 1165 C.E. In addition to being a mystic, he was also a theologian. Around age 30 he began a life of wandering, slowly making his way toward the East. He lived at a time when Sufism was at loggerheads with the legalitarian Islam embodied by the doctors of the Law, known as the fuqaha'. According to Henry Corbin in Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn `Arabi: ....{Ibn `Arabi} made no secret of his disgust at their stupidity, ignorance, and depravity, and such an attitude was not calculated to win their favor. The tension rose, giving rise to denunciations and arrests; our shaikh was in mortal peril. At this critical moment the irreducible antagonism between the spiritual Islam of Sufism and legalitarian Islam became patent. Saved by the intervention of a friendly shaikh, Ibn `Arabi had but one concern, to flee far from Cairo and its hateful, bigoted canonists. Where was he to seek refuge? He returned to Meca (1207). Ibn `Arabi had enemies amongst the fuqaha' all this life, but he also had many important and influential supporters. He died peacefully in Damascus in 1240 surrounded by his family, friends, and his Sufi disciples. Central Themes of Ibn `Arabi's Theology · God in His Divine Essence is unknowable, yet He is free to impose limits on Himself. · When self-limited, God reveals some subset of His attributes whereby he becomes knowable. · God in any one of His numerous self-limited forms is what we humans come to know as our personal Lord, and it is with this personal Lord that we establish a relationship based on mutual love. · Not only do different religions devote themselves to different self-limited forms of God, but each individual also comes to know God in a unique and personal way. · This personal relationship with God is established through · manajat, which is a private, intimate dialogue conducted between an individual and his Lord. http://www.digiserve.com/mystic/Muslim/Ibn_Arabi/index.html ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` ...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.org By sending a message to this list, you are giving permission to have it reproduced as a letter on http://www.realization.org ................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Hi Jan, Thanks a lot. If you happen to run across any good English translations of his writings, would you let me know? I'd like to try to get permission to reprint some on the website. Regards, Rob - " Jan Sultan " <swork <Realization > Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:26 AM Re: The One Alone Ibn `Arabi was born in southeastern Spain in 1165 C.E... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2001 Report Share Posted September 11, 2001 At 9/10/2001-10:35 PM Rob Sacks wrote: >Hi Jan, > >Thanks a lot. If you happen to run across any >good English translations of his writings, >would you let me know? I'd like to try to >get permission to reprint some on the website. > >Regards, > >Rob http://www.ibnarabisociety.org/Publications.html ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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