Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 Hi I sent Rob a mail (personal) a few days ago, he did not reply (very unusual for him) I have just sent him another. It just dawned on me I don't seem to have received any posting from Rob in the last week or so. Am I mistaken? Have any of you got any mail from him, I am concerned. Rob lives in NY and he hasn't posted for the last several days. If any of you know anything please let me know or post it so that all of us will know. Give some of that peace you have to others who may need it now. Take Care Raghu Rob Sacks wrote: Dear Sandeep, This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never read anything by him before. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Rob - Sandeep ChatterjeeTo:Realization Friday, September 07, 2001 12:43 PM The One Alone(Excerpts from "The One Alone," a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >>Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. Heis neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him,whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; norcan any conceive Him with senses, knowledge, mind,intelligence or imagination. Only He can see Himself; only Hecan conceive Himself. None can know Him; only He can knowHimself. He sees Himself by Himself; He conceives Himself byHimself; He knows Himself by Himself. None other than Hecan see Him. None other than He can know Him. That whichhides Him is His oneness. None but Himself can hide Him. Theveil that hides Him is His own being.He is not within you; nor are you in Him. He does not excludeyou, nor are you excluded from Him. When you are addressedas you, do not think that you exist, with an essence andqualities and attributes; for you never existed, nor do exist, norever will exist. You have not entered into Him, nor He intoyou. Without being, your essence is with Him and in Him.Without having any identity, you are Him and He is you. If youknow yourself as nothing, then you truly know your Lord.Otherwise, you truly know Him not.That is why the utterance became permissible for Mansur Al-Hallaj when the words, "I am the Truth!" came from his lips;and for Abu Yazid Al-Bistami when he cried, "Praise be to Me,the essence, absolved of all defect!" These are not people whohave annihilated themselves in Allah; nor have they come to bein Allah. They are eternal. They never ceased to be, for theynever were, since there is only Allah's self, Allah's essence.So if someone says, "I am the Truth!," do not hear it from anyother than from the Truth Himself; for it is not a man who saysit, it is the word of Allah. That man who utters these words isnothing but an image reflected in an empty mirror, one of theinfinite attributes of Allah. The reflection is the same as thatwhich is being reflected, and the words of the image are thereflected words of the Real One...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 I was wondering...was I the only one who got some script attached to some posts today? Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 Hi Rob, That must be it. There is nothing actually attached on the scripting symbol, but I don't ever trust it anyway Trace "You are free- naturally! In a moment of Silence you can taste and recognize yourself- the limitless, boundless being that you are. Everything that arises in you- thoughts, feelings, emotions, body sensations- if met with simple willingness, reveal themselves to be Freedom itself, too." Neelam Rob Sacks [editor]Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:52 PMRealization Subject: Re: Rob Hi Trace, When I look at the first message in this thread, the one from Raghu, with Outlook Express, there is a attachment symbol but no attachment. Is that what you mean? Also, does anybody know a good way to change this mail group to another provider or server-side software so we don't see all these advertisements? Rob - Trace Thode Realization Sunday, September 23, 2001 1:27 PM RE: Rob I was wondering...was I the only one who got some script attached to some posts today? Trace..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Hi I was wondering, about a lot of things esp. about the state of things and impending war, death and destruction. We have all been chatting merrily about non-duality, verses, thoughts and words of great men. I was wondering how does this help in handling all of these as a person. How can I support someone, as a human being atleast over the net. I am at no point suggesting that all our bulletins have been just words, I was wondering how can any of us help one another to use such good thoughts and words to handle such crisis. This may actually be a watershed in our own evolution as people. I am starting this discussion by asking the above Qs. I hope that all my friends on this Board will take these positively and contribute, I will as things move along. God Bless. My Love to all Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Dear Sivakumar Welcome to the Board. Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2001 Report Share Posted September 25, 2001 Hi Raghu, - raghunandan Realization Monday, September 24, 2001 03:45 PM Re: Rob HiI was wondering, about a lot of things esp. about the state of things and impending war, death and destruction.We have all been chatting merrily about non-duality, verses, thoughts and words of great men. I was wondering how does this help in handling all of these as a person. How can I support someone, as a human being atleast over the net. I am at no point suggesting that all our bulletins have been just words, I was wondering how can any of us help one another to use such good thoughts and words to handle such crisis. This may actually be a watershed in our own evolution as people. San: It's actually extraordinarily simple, Raghu. Decide what you wish to do or not wish to do. And do it. Without bothering whether it will contribute to the evolution of the species or towards the end of the species. Cheers Sandeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Judi Way to go! Good for you :-) Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hi Raghu, I'm terribly sorry! I hope you had a good vacation. The reason for the silence is that I've been too busy to keep up with e-mail so a backlog has been accumulating. I hope to go through the mail and catch up when things quiet down. Also, the Realization.org web server was behaving erratically over a period of three days last week and some incoming e-mails that were sent to the address I use here (editor) were lost, so if anybody sent something important, please send it again. Sorry about this. I'll send you a longer letter privately. Rob P.S. The events of 9/11 didn't affect me physically but everyone I know in the U.S. is very disturbed -- not just grief but also deep apprehension about going to war. - raghunandan Realization Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:55 AM Rob HiI sent Rob a mail (personal) a few days ago, he did not reply (very unusual for him) I have just sent him another. It just dawned on me I don't seem to have received any posting from Rob in the last week or so. Am I mistaken? Have any of you got any mail from him, I am concerned. Rob lives in NY and he hasn't posted for the last several days. If any of you know anything please let me know or post it so that all of us will know.Give some of that peace you have to others who may need it now.Take CareRaghuRob Sacks wrote: Dear Sandeep, This is gorgeous, wonderful stuff. I had never read anything by him before. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Rob - Sandeep Chatterjee To:Realization Friday, September 07, 2001 12:43 PM The One Alone (Excerpts from "The One Alone," a treatise by 13th-century Sufi master Muhyiddin Ibn 'Arabi. >>Know that He is never in anything, nor is anything in Him. Heis neither inside nor outside of anything. None can see Him,whether with the eyes of the head or with the inner eye; norcan any conceive Him with senses, knowledge, mind,intelligence or imagination. Only He can see Himself; only Hecan conceive Himself. None can know Him; only He can knowHimself. He sees Himself by Himself; He conceives Himself byHimself; He knows Himself by Himself. None other than Hecan see Him. None other than He can know Him. That whichhides Him is His oneness. None but Himself can hide Him. Theveil that hides Him is His own being. He is not within you; nor are you in Him. He does not excludeyou, nor are you excluded from Him. When you are addressedas you, do not think that you exist, with an essence andqualities and attributes; for you never existed, nor do exist, norever will exist. You have not entered into Him, nor He intoyou. Without being, your essence is with Him and in Him.Without having any identity, you are Him and He is you. If youknow yourself as nothing, then you truly know your Lord.Otherwise, you truly know Him not.That is why the utterance became permissible for Mansur Al-Hallaj when the words, "I am the Truth!" came from his lips;and for Abu Yazid Al-Bistami when he cried, "Praise be to Me,the essence, absolved of all defect!" These are not people whohave annihilated themselves in Allah; nor have they come to bein Allah. They are eternal. They never ceased to be, for theynever were, since there is only Allah's self, Allah's essence.So if someone says, "I am the Truth!," do not hear it from anyother than from the Truth Himself; for it is not a man who saysit, it is the word of Allah. That man who utters these words isnothing but an image reflected in an empty mirror, one of theinfinite attributes of Allah. The reflection is the same as thatwhich is being reflected, and the words of the image are thereflected words of the Real One...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hi Trace, When I look at the first message in this thread, the one from Raghu, with Outlook Express, there is a attachment symbol but no attachment. Is that what you mean? Also, does anybody know a good way to change this mail group to another provider or server-side software so we don't see all these advertisements? Rob - Trace Thode Realization Sunday, September 23, 2001 1:27 PM RE: Rob I was wondering...was I the only one who got some script attached to some posts today? Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Dear Raghu, I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but your earlier message of concern, asking how I am, cheered me up quite a bit. I think a simple question like this, a simple indication that somebody cares, is enormously powerful. This reminds me of how surprised I was when my father died sixteen years ago to observe the emotional power in expressions of condolence from other people. All my life I had watched through the unsentimental, cynical eyes of a boy as people sent cards or made brief phone calls to survivors. Such condolences had seemed like social hypocrisies and empty banalities, but when my father died, for the first time I found myself in a position to see how moving such remarks really are, especially when somebody says, " I know how you feel, it happened to me. " But getting back to the political events -- with all the ugly thoughts of war and international division that swirl around them, it's especially nice to hear from friends in other countries, in many countries. All of us here together, all human beings, connected by something very deep and powerful. I feel like I should add something to this message that explicitly addresses spirituality or meditation. But you know, I don't think it's necessary. These events themselves seem to drive people deeper. Your bud, Rob - " raghunandan " <raghu57 <Realization > Monday, September 24, 2001 6:15 AM Re: Rob > Hi > I was wondering, about a lot of things esp. about the state of things > and impending war, death and destruction. > > We have all been chatting merrily about non-duality, verses, thoughts > and words of great men. I was wondering how does this help in handling > all of these as a person. How can I support someone, as a human being > atleast over the net. I am at no point suggesting that all our bulletins > have been just words, I was wondering how can any of us help one another > to use such good thoughts and words to handle such crisis. This may > actually be a watershed in our own evolution as people. > > I am starting this discussion by asking the above Qs. I hope that all my > friends on this Board will take these positively and contribute, I will > as things move along. > > God Bless. My Love to all > Raghu ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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