Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 > I am nver apart from the > Lord, I am a part of Him always! > San: > > In saying so, aren't you apart? No. Gary Schouborg Performance Consulting Walnut Creek, CA garyscho Publications and professional services: http://home.att.net/~garyscho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Hi Dan, lol. The new Dr. Seuss! Would love to see the illustrations. Rob P.S. For folks outside the U.S. bookselling orbit, Dr. Seuss is a fantastically popular author of children's books. - " d b " <dan330033 <Realization > Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:35 PM Re: God is not in control. > So, never apart, > and never a part. > > An uncombed bald head > have I, with never > a part. > > How so? > > I wouldn't know :-) > > -- Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 So, never apart, and never a part. An uncombed bald head have I, with never a part. How so? I wouldn't know :-) -- Dan --- Gary Schouborg <garyscho wrote: > > I am nver apart from the > > Lord, I am a part of Him always! > > San: > > > > In saying so, aren't you apart? > > No. > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Hi Raghu, Thanks. This little piece of God gets lucky sometimes. Too bad he doesn't have the sense to stop there, before sending a dumb message that sends the average quality down. Oh well, it's not my problem. How's your mom holding up since the earthquake? Was sorry to read about Kashmir this morning. How are people feeling? Rob - " raghunandan " <raghu57 <Realization > Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:22 AM Re: God is not in control. > Hi Rob > Great Writing and thinking. sometime when we do go through stres or > tension, it does seem that there is a duality, but is probably only a > perception, when there is always a non-duality. I am nver apart from the > Lord, I am a part of Him always! > Raghu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Hi Rob, I would never part with those! Not even on the day that my feet leave my toes! :-) Dan > Hi Dan, > > lol. The new Dr. Seuss! Would love > to see the illustrations. > > Rob > > P.S. For folks outside the U.S. bookselling > orbit, Dr. Seuss is a fantastically popular > author of children's books. > > - > " d b " <dan330033 > <Realization > > Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:35 PM > Re: God is not in control. > > > > So, never apart, > > and never a part. > > > > An uncombed bald head > > have I, with never > > a part. > > > > How so? > > > > I wouldn't know :-) > > > > -- Dan > > > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 No matter how we try to talk about the world, the words slip off. You cannot say it's white or brown or right-side up or upside down. You cannot say it's one or two or hot or cold or filled with glue. You cannot even call it " it " because you are a bit of it, And yet you cannot be a part because you cannot chop it up. It isn't cold, it isn't hot, it isn't whole, it isn't chopped, it isn't up, it isn't down, it isn't red or white or brown! The world is strange, you must admit! We cannot find a word that fits! But here's the strangest thing of all, you cannot even say for sure, if it is or if it's not! What a world! I kid you not! Lucky thing that we are free to shut our mouths and simply be. - " d b " <dan330033 <Realization > Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:04 PM Re: God is not in control. > Hi Rob, > > I would never part > with those! > > Not even on the day > that my feet leave my toes! > > :-) > > Dan > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > lol. The new Dr. Seuss! Would love > > to see the illustrations. > > > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Rob Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics? :-) Raghu Rob Sacks wrote: No matter how we try to talk about the world, the words slip off. You cannot say it's white or brown or right-side up or upside down. You cannot say it's one or two or hot or cold or filled with glue. You cannot even call it "it" because you are a bit of it, And yet you cannot be a part because you cannot chop it up. It isn't cold, it isn't hot, it isn't whole, it isn't chopped, it isn't up, it isn't down, it isn't red or white or brown! The world is strange, you must admit! We cannot find a word that fits! But here's the strangest thing of all, you cannot even say for sure, if it is or if it's not! What a world! I kid you not! Lucky thing that we are free to shut our mouths and simply be. - "d b" <dan330033 <Realization > Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:04 PM Re: God is not in control. > Hi Rob, > > I would never part > with those! > > Not even on the day > that my feet leave my toes! > > :-) > > Dan > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > lol. The new Dr. Seuss! Would love > > to see the illustrations. > > > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 I heard once of a Teflon Don, a guy who now has been long gone. And now I know a Teflon Rob, who like Ali can weave and bob. Words slide off like water from duck, If you try to say what it is, you're in for bad luck. :-) -- Dan --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > No matter how we try to talk > about the world, the words slip off. > You cannot say it's white or brown > or right-side up or upside down. > You cannot say it's one or two > or hot or cold or filled with glue. > You cannot even call it " it " > because you are a bit of it, > And yet you cannot be a part > because you cannot chop it up. > It isn't cold, it isn't hot, > it isn't whole, it isn't chopped, > it isn't up, it isn't down, > it isn't red or white or brown! > The world is strange, you must admit! > We cannot find a word that fits! > But here's the strangest thing of all, > you cannot even say for sure, > if it is or if it's not! > What a world! I kid you not! > Lucky thing that we are free > to shut our mouths and simply be. > > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Raghu, > Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics?> :-) Raghu lol, it was supposed to be Vedanta. "Brahman" seemed too sophisticated for Dr. Seuss so I wrote "world" instead. The hot and cold stuff was supposed to be like: "Smaller than the small, greater than the great... Sitting he moves far; lying he goes everywhere..." (Katha Upanishad I.2.20-21). The point being that Brahman cannot be grasped conceptually. This reminds me of a faddish expression that parents sometimes say to kids here -- it must have been in a movie or something -- when they are at their wits' ends and about to explode: "Don't even think about it!" Then there's this, from the Kena Upanishad 2: "I do not think that I know it well; But I know not that I do not know. Who of us knows that, he does know that; But he knows not, that he does not know. "It's envisioned by one who envisions it not; but one who envisions it knows it not... "When one awakens to know it, one envisions it, for then one gains the immortal state...." Radhakrishnan comments about the first paragraph of this quote, "This verse brings out how we struggle with the difficulties of human expression, how we confess to ourselves the insufficiency of mental utterance." That might be a good slogan to append automatically to the bottom of every e-mail. Childishly, Rob - raghunandan Realization Friday, October 05, 2001 12:34 AM Re: Re: God is not in control. RobAre you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics?:-) Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Dan, Teflon Dan is gone for good, he disappeared one day, Like a wave when waters calm, he simply went away. Does anybody miss him or does Teflon Dan miss us? And is this question meaningful, since Danny never was? Aquatically, Rob - " d b " <dan330033 <Realization > Friday, October 05, 2001 9:09 AM Re: God is not in control. > I heard once of a Teflon Don, > a guy who now has been long gone. > And now I know a Teflon Rob, > who like Ali can weave and bob. > > Words slide off like water from duck, > If you try to say what it is, you're > in for bad luck. > > :-) > > -- Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Rob and Dan This is like a T-shirt slogan I once read "This is Nitzche's answering machine. He is not there, You are not there and the answering machine does not exist!" Raghu Rob Sacks wrote: Dan, Teflon Dan is gone for good, he disappeared one day, Like a wave when waters calm, he simply went away. Does anybody miss him or does Teflon Dan miss us? And is this question meaningful, since Danny never was? Aquatically, Rob - "d b" <dan330033 <Realization > Friday, October 05, 2001 9:09 AM Re: God is not in control. > I heard once of a Teflon Don, > a guy who now has been long gone. > And now I know a Teflon Rob, > who like Ali can weave and bob. > > Words slide off like water from duck, > If you try to say what it is, you're > in for bad luck. > > :-) > > -- Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Rob It was in all seriousness. Have you read " Dancing Wu Li Masters " - Gary Zhukov. There are so many similarities between Vedanta and Particle Physics. Paradoxes for one and things that are beyong conceptual grasp. Check it out. Raghu Rob Sacks wrote: > Hi Raghu, > > > > > Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics? > > :-) Raghu > > > > lol, it was supposed to be Vedanta. " Brahman " seemed too > > sophisticated for Dr. Seuss so I wrote " world " instead. > > > > The hot and cold stuff was supposed to be like: > > > > " Smaller than the small, greater than the great... Sitting he > > moves far; lying he goes everywhere... " (Katha Upanishad > > I.2.20-21). > > > > The point being that Brahman cannot be grasped > > conceptually. > > > > This reminds me of a faddish expression that parents > > sometimes say to kids here -- it must have been in a > > movie or something -- when they are at their wits' ends > > and about to explode: " Don't even think about it! " > > > > Then there's this, from the Kena Upanishad 2: > > > > " I do not think > > that I know it well; > > But I know not > > that I do not know. > > Who of us knows that, > > he does know that; > > But he knows not, > > that he does not know. > > > > " It's envisioned by one who envisions it not; > > but one who envisions it knows it not... > > > > " When one awakens to know it, > > one envisions it, for then > > one gains the immortal state.... " > > > > Radhakrishnan comments about the first > > paragraph of this quote, " This verse brings out > > how we struggle with the difficulties of human > > expression, how we confess to ourselves the > > insufficiency of mental utterance. " > > > > That might be a good slogan to append automatically > > to the bottom of every e-mail. > > > > Childishly, > > > > Rob > - > > raghunandan <raghu57 > > To:Realization <Realization > > > Friday, October 05, 2001 12:34 AM > > Re: Re: God is not in control. > > > Rob > Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics? > :-) Raghu > > > ...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Raghu, I will pass by a bookstore later today and take a look. Regards, Rob - " raghunandan " <raghu57 <Realization > Friday, October 05, 2001 10:54 AM Re: Re: God is not in control. > Rob > It was in all seriousness. Have you read " Dancing Wu Li Masters " - Gary > Zhukov. There are so many similarities between Vedanta and Particle > Physics. Paradoxes for one and things that are beyong conceptual grasp. > Check it out. > Raghu > > > Rob Sacks wrote: > > > Hi Raghu, > > > > > > > > > Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics? > > > :-) Raghu > > > > > > > > lol, it was supposed to be Vedanta. " Brahman " seemed too > > > > sophisticated for Dr. Seuss so I wrote " world " instead. > > > > > > > > The hot and cold stuff was supposed to be like: > > > > > > > > " Smaller than the small, greater than the great... Sitting he > > > > moves far; lying he goes everywhere... " (Katha Upanishad > > > > I.2.20-21). > > > > > > > > The point being that Brahman cannot be grasped > > > > conceptually. > > > > > > > > This reminds me of a faddish expression that parents > > > > sometimes say to kids here -- it must have been in a > > > > movie or something -- when they are at their wits' ends > > > > and about to explode: " Don't even think about it! " > > > > > > > > Then there's this, from the Kena Upanishad 2: > > > > > > > > " I do not think > > > > that I know it well; > > > > But I know not > > > > that I do not know. > > > > Who of us knows that, > > > > he does know that; > > > > But he knows not, > > > > that he does not know. > > > > > > > > " It's envisioned by one who envisions it not; > > > > but one who envisions it knows it not... > > > > > > > > " When one awakens to know it, > > > > one envisions it, for then > > > > one gains the immortal state.... " > > > > > > > > Radhakrishnan comments about the first > > > > paragraph of this quote, " This verse brings out > > > > how we struggle with the difficulties of human > > > > expression, how we confess to ourselves the > > > > insufficiency of mental utterance. " > > > > > > > > That might be a good slogan to append automatically > > > > to the bottom of every e-mail. > > > > > > > > Childishly, > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > raghunandan <raghu57 > > > > To:Realization <Realization > > > > > Friday, October 05, 2001 12:34 AM > > > > Re: Re: God is not in control. > > > > > > Rob > > Are you talking of Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics? > > :-) Raghu > > > > > > ...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > > > Email addresses: > > Post message: Realization > > Un: Realization- > > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > > http://www.realization.org > > ................................................. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Didn't the rishis say something about that tee-shirt? Wearing it for one hour is worth a thousand hours of ritual...? - raghunandan Realization Friday, October 05, 2001 10:49 AM Re: Re: God is not in control. Rob and DanThis is like a T-shirt slogan I once read"This is Nitzche's answering machine. He is not there, You are not there and the answering machine does not exist!"RaghuRob Sacks wrote: Dan,Teflon Dan is gone for good,he disappeared one day,Like a wave when waters calm,he simply went away.Does anybody miss him ordoes Teflon Dan miss us?And is this question meaningful,since Danny never was?Aquatically,Rob- "d b" <dan330033<Realization >Friday, October 05, 2001 9:09 AM Re: God is not in control.> I heard once of a Teflon Don,> a guy who now has been long gone.> And now I know a Teflon Rob,> who like Ali can weave and bob.> > Words slide off like water from duck,> If you try to say what it is, you're> in for bad luck.> > :-)> > -- Dan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Rob ~ More with you than you'll ever know -- Closer than Santa is to ho! ho! ho! What went away, never really made the show And what is here was never moreso. -- Dan --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > Dan, > > Teflon Dan is gone for good, > he disappeared one day, > Like a wave when waters calm, > he simply went away. > > Does anybody miss him or > does Teflon Dan miss us? > And is this question meaningful, > since Danny never was? > > Aquatically, > > Rob > > - > " d b " <dan330033 > <Realization > > Friday, October 05, 2001 9:09 AM > Re: God is not in control. > > > > I heard once of a Teflon Don, > > a guy who now has been long gone. > > And now I know a Teflon Rob, > > who like Ali can weave and bob. > > > > Words slide off like water from duck, > > If you try to say what it is, you're > > in for bad luck. > > > > :-) > > > > -- Dan > > > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Raghu -- I once didn't wear a tee-shirt exactly not like that! -- Dan --- raghunandan <raghu57 wrote: > Rob and Dan > This is like a T-shirt slogan I once read > > " This is Nitzche's answering machine. He is not > there, > You are not there and the answering machine does not > exist! " > > Raghu NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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