Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Dear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writing a bit more about it, would love to hear some more examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions I saw myself giving birth in a room with white walls. I was panting and perspiring and my partner was touching a cool washcloth to my forehead and face. In the vision I looked up at him and I was really, really happy. Also, I got a glimpse of the child, who was a perfectly beautiful and healthy baby girl. This gave me a total fearlessness throughout the duration of the pregnancy. From that moment on, I never saw a single doctor, never got a single test. There was total trust in the knowingness about what my body and the baby's body needed. There was a certainty in every moment that all was well. The pregnancy was deeply restful and joyful and incredibly easy! No troubles. Since we were to have a girl, we steered away from the baby boy clothes and paraphernalia. I also "saw" what her name was going to be, even though her dad and I were skeptical about it at first. So, having seen that there were to be no complications, he and our other best friend and I prepared to have the birth by ourselves at home. We gathered supplies and created a beautiful birthing environment in the bedroom, which, incidentally, was the only room (an addition) in the log cabin that had white walls. This is one point where a vision got me in some trouble. See, none of us had ever even attended a birth before, let alone been an active participant. We lived at an 8900-foot elevation in the Rocky Mountains and it was the middle of November. There were feet of snow on the ground and ice on the roads but we didn't care. It also didn't phase us that the baby was two weeks late! We didn't read any books about what could go wrong, because clearly nothing was going to go wrong..... right? Well, when labor finally came, it went on and on. Reeeaally long. I started withdrawing deeper and deeper into myself, kind of in "survival mode," and my friends were getting nervous. When they weren't asleep they were giving worried looks to one another and of course the poor souls were unable to provide any kind of convincing strength or support, either to me or to each other! After 34 hours (no kidding) alone with contractions we called some midwives from the phonebook and didn't reach any. As a last resort, my friends rushed me, groaning in heavy labor, down the hour-long, twisty and icy roads to the hospital. I found out later that they really didn't know if either I or the baby was going to make it! Meanwhile, in between waves of Enormous discomfort (with a capital E), I was in a state of confusion because this was TOTALLY not how I thought it was supposed to be! For the first time ever, I was doubting the vision, "How could what I had seen be real if this is happening? Is this real or is that real???" When we anxiously arrived at the emergency room I was examined and was cheerfully told, to my astonishment, "Congratulations! You are about to have a baby!!" I was immediately hooked up to an I.V. with liquids because I had been extremely dehydrated, but that was about it. Jim patted my forehead with a wet towel and as I looked up at him, I was really, really happy to know that everything was going to be okay. Of course, this was all taking place in a room with white walls ( ! )....and when Ananda finally arrived, she was beautiful and she was perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Hi I am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-) Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandan Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AM Re: Another "vision story"- kinda long HiI am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-)Raghu..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Thank you very kindly for such "complimentary " words. I quote from an earlier message for your kind reference Dear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writing a bit more about it, would love to hear some more examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions etc. This thread is not clear unless a) if the reader already knew the protagonists and roles played by them b) there was an earlier part to the thread, which I am not aware of I cannot understand why my question deserves a off the cuff remark. I am taking offense. I do not like the reply. I have been polite in all my postings and I think I deserve to get simple civility in return. Raghu Sandeep Chatterjee wrote: Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandanTo:Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AMRe: Another "vision story"- kinda longHiI am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-)Raghu..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Dear Raghu, The confusion is my fault and I don't think Sandeep meant anything offensive. I believe his remark "Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure" was his whimsical, self-deprecating way of saying that I had mistaken him for Kheyala, and of disowning any claim to the impressive siddhi of prescience. What happened was, Kheyala posted a letter here two days ago that began: > Dear Sandeep, >> I took this excerpt from your letter on the am1gos > list. (I haven't been on there long enough to know > if that was a good place to respond)... I was reading way too fast and mistakenly thought that the whole rest of Kheyala's letter was reprinted from Sandeep's earlier one, when in fact most of it was by Kheyala. This was entirely my fault. Kheyala's letter makes perfectly clear which part was written by her and which by Sandeep. Also, Kheyala's letter doesn't sound like Sandeep, and surely I should have noticed that. The rest of that letter, which was really by Kheyala, told the story of her conversation with the bank officer about her mortgage. I liked it so much that I wrote to Sandeep asking him for more -- but in fact only Kheyala could tell us more, since she was the real author. Both Kheyala and Sandeep wrote messages pointing out my mistake. Kheyala wrote this: > Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! > it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions ... and Sandeep wrote this: > Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. I hope this message clarifies things and doesn't simply muddy the waters further! Praying for clarity, Rob - raghunandan Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:58 AM Re: Another "vision story"- kinda long Thank you very kindly for such "complimentary " words. I quote from an earlier message for your kind reference Dear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writing a bit more about it, would love to hear some more examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions :)etc. This thread is not clear unlessa) if the reader already knew the protagonists and roles played by themb) there was an earlier part to the thread, which I am not aware ofI cannot understand why my question deserves a off the cuff remark. I am taking offense. I do not like the reply. I have been polite in all my postings and I think I deserve to get simple civility in return.RaghuSandeep Chatterjee wrote: Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandan To:Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AM Re: Another "vision story"- kinda long HiI am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-)Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Dear Raghu, You got offended? Jesus H Christ. All I said was, I am not the one with the visions. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandan Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 07:28 PM Re: Another "vision story"- kinda long Thank you very kindly for such "complimentary " words. I quote from an earlier message for your kind reference Dear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writing a bit more about it, would love to hear some more examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions :)etc. This thread is not clear unlessa) if the reader already knew the protagonists and roles played by themb) there was an earlier part to the thread, which I am not aware ofI cannot understand why my question deserves a off the cuff remark. I am taking offense. I do not like the reply. I have been polite in all my postings and I think I deserve to get simple civility in return.RaghuSandeep Chatterjee wrote: Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandan To:Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AM Re: Another "vision story"- kinda long HiI am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-)Raghu..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Dear Kheyala, That's quite a story. I bet nobody had ever appreciated the color of the hospital walls as much before! Did something special happen to make your partner trust your visions? Any idea what started these visions coming? Feel like telling us another? Greedily, Rob - Kheyala Realization Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:44 PM Another "vision story"- kinda long Dear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writing a bit more about it, would love to hear some more examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions I saw myself giving birth in a room with white walls. I was panting and perspiring and my partner was touching a cool washcloth to my forehead and face. In the vision I looked up at him and I was really, really happy. Also, I got a glimpse of the child, who was a perfectly beautiful and healthy baby girl. This gave me a total fearlessness throughout the duration of the pregnancy. From that moment on, I never saw a single doctor, never got a single test. There was total trust in the knowingness about what my body and the baby's body needed. There was a certainty in every moment that all was well. The pregnancy was deeply restful and joyful and incredibly easy! No troubles. Since we were to have a girl, we steered away from the baby boy clothes and paraphernalia. I also "saw" what her name was going to be, even though her dad and I were skeptical about it at first. So, having seen that there were to be no complications, he and our other best friend and I prepared to have the birth by ourselves at home. We gathered supplies and created a beautiful birthing environment in the bedroom, which, incidentally, was the only room (an addition) in the log cabin that had white walls. This is one point where a vision got me in some trouble. See, none of us had ever even attended a birth before, let alone been an active participant. We lived at an 8900-foot elevation in the Rocky Mountains and it was the middle of November. There were feet of snow on the ground and ice on the roads but we didn't care. It also didn't phase us that the baby was two weeks late! We didn't read any books about what could go wrong, because clearly nothing was going to go wrong..... right? Well, when labor finally came, it went on and on. Reeeaally long. I started withdrawing deeper and deeper into myself, kind of in "survival mode," and my friends were getting nervous. When they weren't asleep they were giving worried looks to one another and of course the poor souls were unable to provide any kind of convincing strength or support, either to me or to each other! After 34 hours (no kidding) alone with contractions we called some midwives from the phonebook and didn't reach any. As a last resort, my friends rushed me, groaning in heavy labor, down the hour-long, twisty and icy roads to the hospital. I found out later that they really didn't know if either I or the baby was going to make it! Meanwhile, in between waves of Enormous discomfort (with a capital E), I was in a state of confusion because this was TOTALLY not how I thought it was supposed to be! For the first time ever, I was doubting the vision, "How could what I had seen be real if this is happening? Is this real or is that real???" When we anxiously arrived at the emergency room I was examined and was cheerfully told, to my astonishment, "Congratulations! You are about to have a baby!!" I was immediately hooked up to an I.V. with liquids because I had been extremely dehydrated, but that was about it. Jim patted my forehead with a wet towel and as I looked up at him, I was really, really happy to know that everything was going to be okay. Of course, this was all taking place in a room with white walls ( ! )....and when Ananda finally arrived, she was beautiful and she was perfect. ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Realization, " Sandeep Chatterjee " <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > Dear Raghu, > > You got offended? > Jesus H Christ. > All I said was, I am not the one with the visions. > > Cheers > > Sandeep > > ******* :-) lol Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Dear Rob and Sandeep Thanx a million for putting the confusion and misunderstanding at rest. All offences retracted! :-) It was a complete misunderstanding on my part and without quite thinking I reacted. Take Care Raghu Rob Sacks wrote: Dear Raghu, The confusion is my fault and I don't think Sandeep meant anything offensive. I believe his remark "Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure" was his whimsical, self-deprecating way of saying that I had mistaken him for Kheyala, and of disowning any claim to the impressive siddhi of prescience. What happened was, Kheyala posted a letter here two days ago that began: > Dear Sandeep, >> I took this excerpt from your letter on the am1gos > list. (I haven't been on there long enough to know > if that was a good place to respond)... I was reading way too fast and mistakenly thought that the whole rest of Kheyala's letter was reprinted from Sandeep's earlier one, when in fact most of it was by Kheyala. This was entirely my fault. Kheyala's letter makes perfectly clear which part was written by her and which by Sandeep. Also, Kheyala's letter doesn't sound like Sandeep, and surely I should have noticed that. The rest of that letter, which was really by Kheyala, told the story of her conversation with the bank officer about her mortgage. I liked it so much that I wrote to Sandeep asking him for more -- but in fact only Kheyala could tell us more, since she was the real author. Both Kheyala and Sandeep wrote messages pointing out my mistake. Kheyala wrote this: > Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! > it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions .... and Sandeep wrote this: > Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. I hope this message clarifies things and doesn't simply muddy the waters further! Praying for clarity, Rob - raghunandanTo:Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:58 AMRe: Another "vision story"- kinda longThank you very kindly for such "complimentary " words. I quote from an earlier message for your kind referenceDear Sandeep, This is quite amazing. If you feel like writinga bit more about it, would love to hear somemore examples of what you saw in advance. Amazedly, Rob Great, Rob! I love to tell them. Here goes: Well, I discovered that I was pregnant. (surprise! it was Kheyala who wrote about the visions :)etc. This thread is not clear unlessa) if the reader already knew the protagonists and roles played by themb) there was an earlier part to the thread, which I am not aware ofI cannot understand why my question deserves a off the cuff remark. I am taking offense. I do not like the reply. I have been polite in all my postings and I think I deserve to get simple civility in return.RaghuSandeep Chatterjee wrote:Well this dude, isn't, in that rarefied circle, for sure. Cheers Sandeep - raghunandanTo:Realization Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AMRe: Another "vision story"- kinda longHiI am sorry for being personal, but I am confused. There seems to be three people, 1)Sandeep - who according to Rob had visions, 2) the lady (Kheyala) who had the beautiful baby and 3) Jim. Will someone please explain? :-)Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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