Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 Perhaps the greatest guide to an understanding of what like is like living in the fully awakened state can be found by reading the Tao. However - a word of caution - most of the versions of this currently available from your local " New Age " bookstore are merely re-translations or interpretation of what someone thinks someone else has said - in other words, they make no reference back to the original - being in fact based on the first English translations which were done by Jesuit missionaries in the 1800's preconception - the translation of words into a language based on what one thinks the words ought to be saying - to make a concept or idea acceptable within a learned frame work. However - there are some translations which have been written by Taoists who learned to speak English - and these differ very greatly from all others - not only in the words and the structure of the sentences (or ideograms) but also in the energy behind the words. This is the energy which one in an awakened state can read - not the black on white, but the meaning of the white between the black. An even greater understanding of the Tao can be found by getting a facsimile of the oldest Chinese versions and sleeping with this under the pillow - allowing the essence to be absorbed whilst in a state of " no-mind " where one is beyond the limitations of learned beliefs and preconceptions. Back in more recent olden times, a scribe by the name of Patenjali is reputed to have written something which transliterates into " when you purify yourself, you are able to enter the body of another " This is a pretty good approximation of the principles of Shamanism. A Shaman is one who has overcome the shame of his own humanness. In other words - he sees no separation between himself and the Unified Field of consciousness - thus being able to enter the body of all things and read the vibrations contained there-in. Discernment is the tool that the mind uses in deciding how to separate, identify, interpret, use and understand the information gleaned in this process. I can walk up to a tree and place my back against the tree - merge my mind and awareness into the energy field of the tree - and what I see is a hologram - a kaleidoscope of everything that has happened to the tree and the environment around the tree since the seed first started to germinate. What I do with this information is, of course, the evolution of wisdom. How I translate it into some practical information and what I do with the information. Scientists can do much the same sort of thing by cutting down the tree and slicing up the trunk - analysing the growth rings under a microscope. The History of climate change on the planet can be gleaned by taking an ice core from the Arctic or Antarctic and examining that core scientifically. I don't need to do that. The history of civilisation is contained within the genetic code of the DNA. Wisdom is what it takes to allow the pictures to come without preconceptions - to allow one picture to give way to the next as the kallaidescope unfolds to present a bigger picture - rather than to freeze frame and try to understand one picture in isolation. This is the Book of the Human Body - my body. Yet, as I go back further, the genes that I access are the same genes that every man woman and child on this planet carries. 94% of them are the same as those carried in the Great Hairy Earth Worm. The fact that more than 90% of what I am made of can be found in the Great Ape is the beginnings of the understanding of humility. The awakened state opens many doorways. Being conscious of Consciousness allows me to place my awareness anywhere within the unified field. The absence of preconception allows me to move the angle of that awareness and view any part of the kallaidescope from any point of the matrix and see the relationship between the one in separation and the whole from which it came. == Christopher Wynter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 Christopher, would you be so kind as to give us the title and author of one of the " correctly translated " Tao books? Or the URL where it can be purchased? Gelf - " Christopher Wynter " <lifestreams <Realization > Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:22 AM The smell of one bird crapping > Perhaps the greatest guide to an understanding of what like is > like living in the fully awakened state can be found by reading the > Tao. > > However - a word of caution - most of the versions of this > currently available from your local " New Age " bookstore are merely > re-translations or interpretation of what someone thinks someone > else has said - > > in other words, they make no reference back to the original - > being in fact based on the first English translations which were > done by Jesuit missionaries in the 1800's > > preconception - the translation of words into a language based on > what one thinks the words ought to be saying - to make a concept or > idea acceptable within a learned frame work. > > However - there are some translations which have been written by > Taoists who learned to speak English - and these differ very > greatly from all others - not only in the words and the structure > of the sentences (or ideograms) but also in the energy behind the > words. > > This is the energy which one in an awakened state can read - not > the black on white, but the meaning of the white between the black. > > An even greater understanding of the Tao can be found by getting a > facsimile of the oldest Chinese versions and sleeping with this > under the pillow - allowing the essence to be absorbed whilst in a > state of " no-mind " where one is beyond the limitations of learned > beliefs and preconceptions. > > Back in more recent olden times, a scribe by the name of Patenjali > is reputed to have written something which transliterates into > " when you purify yourself, you are able to enter the body of another " > > This is a pretty good approximation of the principles of Shamanism. > > A Shaman is one who has overcome the shame of his own humanness. > > In other words - he sees no separation between himself and the > Unified Field of consciousness - thus being able to enter the body > of all things and read the vibrations contained there-in. > > Discernment is the tool that the mind uses in deciding how to > separate, identify, interpret, use and understand the information > gleaned in this process. > > I can walk up to a tree and place my back against the tree - merge > my mind and awareness into the energy field of the tree - and what > I see is a hologram - a kaleidoscope of everything that has > happened to the tree and the environment around the tree since the > seed first started to germinate. > > What I do with this information is, of course, the evolution of > wisdom. How I translate it into some practical information and what > I do with the information. > > Scientists can do much the same sort of thing by cutting down the > tree and slicing up the trunk - analysing the growth rings under a > microscope. > > The History of climate change on the planet can be gleaned by > taking an ice core from the Arctic or Antarctic and examining that > core scientifically. > > I don't need to do that. The history of civilisation is contained > within the genetic code of the DNA. Wisdom is what it takes to > allow the pictures to come without preconceptions - to allow one > picture to give way to the next as the kallaidescope unfolds to > present a bigger picture - rather than to freeze frame and try to > understand one picture in isolation. > > This is the Book of the Human Body - my body. > > Yet, as I go back further, the genes that I access are the same > genes that every man woman and child on this planet carries. 94% of > them are the same as those carried in the Great Hairy Earth Worm. > > The fact that more than 90% of what I am made of can be found in > the Great Ape is the beginnings of the understanding of humility. > > > The awakened state opens many doorways. Being conscious of > Consciousness allows me to place my awareness anywhere within the > unified field. The absence of preconception allows me to move the > angle of that awareness and view any part of the kallaidescope from > any point of the matrix and see the relationship between the one in > separation and the whole from which it came. > > == Christopher Wynter > > > > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST.......... > > Email addresses: > Post message: Realization > Un: Realization- > Our web address: http://www.realization.org > > By sending a message to this list, you are giving > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on > http://www.realization.org > ................................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 At 8/12/01, you wrote: Christopher, would you be so kind as to give us the title and author of one of the " correctly translated " Tao books? Or the URL where it can be purchased? One of the closest that I have been able to come across which should be easily available " The Guiding Light of Lao Tzu " translated by Henry Wei ISBN 0-8356-9562-0 AND ISBN 0-8356-0558-2 Originally published through Quest Books (Theosophical Publishing House) - 1982 His commentary is very interesting .. I won't say this is " correctly translated " as there are, in many cases, no real translations for the essence which cannot be written - however this, to me, feels closest in essence to the ancient manuscripts which I have been able to lay my hands on.. == Christopher Wynter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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