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Question to the List:

 

Am curious if anyone has any thoughts on " Solipsism " . In particular,

are there two (or more) kinds (for lack of better wording)?

 

For example, 1) the kind where an " individual " thinks that everything

is his/her creation, dream world, etc. And 2), the kind other the

psychosomatic apparatus (i.e., human) realizes she/he doesn't exist except

as a phenemona as does everything else appearing to, within, and as

modifications of itself as Awareness.

 

Also, does anyone here think that the people, creatures, and animals we

see and interact with are aware? That they " have " , so to speak,

Consciousness? If so, why?

 

I ask out of curiosity and also because there's an ongoing debate on

another list. One person, who adamantly asserts that she/he/it is " God " and

everyone and everything else is her/his/its " dream figures " who have no

consciousness at all. This person quite often resorts to calling others on

the list names like " stupid " , " afraid " , " ignorant " , " resistant to believing

what she/he/it says " , " Balsekar doesn't know what he's talking about " , etc.

 

Thanks!

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If you are asking for personal opinion, then I believe that all matter has consciousness of one sort or another and that this consciousness is interconnected at some level. (Einstein proved that matter =energy and energy=matter) If energy is movement and movement is consciousness, then all matter is conscious. Obviously a human is more conscious than say a rock, but an animal would be more conscious than a tree.

Generally the debate your friend on the other list is engaged in is a matter of ego, semantics and word definition. If he/she really wants to engage in learning, develop a definition of consciousness that both agree on and go from there. If all he/she wants to do is pontificate, I'd find another place to be :}

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Never be pessimistic: It is not going to work anyhow.

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Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:11:28 PM

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Question about Solipsism

Question to the List:Am curious if anyone has any thoughts on "Solipsism". In particular,are there two (or more) kinds (for lack of better wording)?For example, 1) the kind where an "individual" thinks that everythingis his/her creation, dream world, etc. And 2), the kind other thepsychosomatic apparatus (i.e., human) realizes she/he doesn't exist exceptas a phenemona as does everything else appearing to, within, and asmodifications of itself as Awareness.Also, does anyone here think that the people, creatures, and animals wesee and interact with are aware? That they "have", so to speak,Consciousness? If so, why?I ask out of curiosity and also because there's an ongoing debate onanother list. One person, who adamantly asserts that she/he/it is "God" andeveryone and everything else is her/his/its "dream figures" who have noconsciousness at all. This person quite often resorts to calling others onthe list names like "stupid", "afraid", "ignorant", "resistant to believingwhat she/he/it says", "Balsekar doesn't know what he's talking about", etc.Thanks!

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If you're interested in " Solipsism " , I invite you to check in with The of Solipsism Central, ~~~~AllisonWonderland~~~~, aka James

Allison, where the Dream Team holds forth as the wittiest newsgroup on

the whole world wide web, at <alt.solipsism>.

 

Judi

 

 

 

 

Michael Adamson wrote:

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> Question to the List:

>

> Am curious if anyone has any thoughts on " Solipsism " . In particular,

> are there two (or more) kinds (for lack of better wording)?

>

> For example, 1) the kind where an " individual " thinks that everything

> is his/her creation, dream world, etc. And 2), the kind other the

> psychosomatic apparatus (i.e., human) realizes she/he doesn't exist except

> as a phenemona as does everything else appearing to, within, and as

> modifications of itself as Awareness.

>

> Also, does anyone here think that the people, creatures, and animals we

> see and interact with are aware? That they " have " , so to speak,

> Consciousness? If so, why?

>

> I ask out of curiosity and also because there's an ongoing debate on

> another list. One person, who adamantly asserts that she/he/it is " God " and

> everyone and everything else is her/his/its " dream figures " who have no

> consciousness at all. This person quite often resorts to calling others on

> the list names like " stupid " , " afraid " , " ignorant " , " resistant to believing

> what she/he/it says " , " Balsekar doesn't know what he's talking about " , etc.

>

> Thanks!

>

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