[NoDoer] Enlightenment In A Nutshell - Jim Dreaver

[Guest guest]

Judi --

 

I like what he said about a feeling of deep peace,

he writes in a nice, poetic way.

 

But why would a feeling of deep peace be any more

real than a feeling of anger?

 

Each occurs from me and of me ... each are my doing ...

 

A person's not just an appearance -- he/she's

a doing.

 

The persons appearing, and the objects appearing

to the persons, are equally my doing.

 

The awareness to which an object appears is

also my doing.

 

Who is doing awareness involves no activity,

and isn't a subject or an object --

each of which requires the other ...

 

-- Dan

 

 

 

 

 

> Gregory Goode wrote:

> >

> > This really is Jean Klein's teaching. The person is not the

center of sentience or awareness. Rather, the person is an appearing

object. The person, the ego, the mind, the world - they merely

APPEAR. They appear to that which never suffers, is never absent,

which never resists, which is clarity itself. The contraction of

thoughts, feelings and sensations that appear to make the " me " a real

thing -- these melt way peacefully, without even a goodbye kiss.

Then a deep peace is felt,

> way beyond the level of the person. Evven as the person is sick or

> dying, the deep peace is felt.

>

> *** Nice Greg.

>

> Where troubles melt like lemon drops,

> away above the chimney tops,

> that's where you'll find me...

>

> :-)

>

> Love,

> Judi

[Guest guest]

Good point Dan.

 

My understanding is that Jean Klein

instructs the questioner to

 

" see "

 

the feeling, the emotion, the thought,

 

and in the " seeing "

 

you are outside it,

 

you are aware of it,

 

you are not involved in it.

 

For me,

 

the " seeing "

 

is

 

the " freeing "

 

Stuff comes up in my body/mind.

 

There are memories of past experiences

 

but there is no repetition.

 

Life never repeats itself...never,

regardless how we like to make it so.

 

Every moment in life is brand new.

 

Every situation is fresh.

 

Every momentary experience the body/mind

has is stored in the mind of the person having

that experience. The body/mind has a beginning,

a middle and an end. The body is neutral.

The mind is energy in motion. The mind and the

body are one, not two.

 

Reality is here and now,

always has been,

always will be.

 

Consciousness and it's object thought are one, not two.

 

Silence/Love never leaves us...we leave it.

 

That is my story and I am sticking to it. :-)

 

Love,

 

Michael

 

At 10:46 AM 4/30/2002, you wrote:

 

Judi --

 

I like what he said about a feeling of deep peace,

he writes in a nice, poetic way.

 

But why would a feeling of deep peace be any more

real than a feeling of anger?

 

Each occurs from me and of me ... each are my doing ...

 

A person's not just an appearance -- he/she's

a doing.

 

The persons appearing, and the objects appearing

to the persons, are equally my doing.

 

The awareness to which an object appears is

also my doing.

 

Who is doing awareness involves no activity,

and isn't a subject or an object --

each of which requires the other ...

 

-- Dan

 

 

 

 

 

> Gregory Goode wrote:

> >

> > This really is Jean Klein's teaching. The person is not

the

center of sentience or awareness. Rather, the person is an

appearing

object. The person, the ego, the mind, the world - they merely

 

APPEAR. They appear to that which never suffers, is never

absent,

which never resists, which is clarity itself. The contraction of

 

thoughts, feelings and sensations that appear to make the " me "

a real

thing -- these melt way peacefully, without even a goodbye kiss.

 

Then a deep peace is felt,

> way beyond the level of the person. Evven as the person is

sick or

> dying, the deep peace is felt.

>

> *** Nice Greg.

>

> Where troubles melt like lemon drops,

> away above the chimney tops,

> that's where you'll find me...

>

> :-)

>

> Love,

> Judi

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Gregory Goode wrote:

>

> This really is Jean Klein's teaching. The person is not the center of

sentience or awareness. Rather, the person is an appearing object. The person,

the ego, the mind, the world - they merely APPEAR. They appear to that which

never suffers, is never absent, which never resists, which is clarity itself.

The contraction of thoughts, feelings and sensations that appear to make the

" me " a real thing -- these melt way peacefully, without even a goodbye kiss.

Then a deep peace is felt,

way beyond the level of the person. Evven as the person is sick or

dying, the deep peace is felt.

 

*** Nice Greg.

 

Where troubles melt like lemon drops,

away above the chimney tops,

that's where you'll find me...

 

:-)

 

Love,

Judi

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Michael!

 

Well-stated and clear.

 

What you say about freedom

being nonrepetitive

rings quite true here!

 

Being stuck in repetition

is an attempt to

avoid losing the familiar

and known --

 

Repeated are the strategies

to try to maintain control

of internal and external

happenings ...

 

The familiar, the repeating,

seem to keep me in a mold --

seem to keep me from breaking free --

from learning that

I'm not who I thought I was,

not doing what it seemed

to me I was doing ...

 

One moment of learning,

and there's no me situated

in the familiar and repeating,

the attempt to maintain control

isn't done by a me after all ...

 

 

Love,

Dan

 

Nisargadatta, Michael <mdjmjj@c...> wrote:

> Good point Dan.

>

> My understanding is that Jean Klein

> instructs the questioner to

>

> " see "

>

> the feeling, the emotion, the thought,

>

> and in the " seeing "

>

> you are outside it,

>

> you are aware of it,

>

> you are not involved in it.

>

> For me,

>

> the " seeing "

>

> is

>

> the " freeing "

>

> Stuff comes up in my body/mind.

>

> There are memories of past experiences

>

> but there is no repetition.

>

> Life never repeats itself...never,

> regardless how we like to make it so.

>

> Every moment in life is brand new.

>

> Every situation is fresh.

>

> Every momentary experience the body/mind

> has is stored in the mind of the person having

> that experience. The body/mind has a beginning,

> a middle and an end. The body is neutral.

> The mind is energy in motion. The mind and the

> body are one, not two.

>

> Reality is here and now,

> always has been,

> always will be.

>

> Consciousness and it's object thought are one, not two.

>

> Silence/Love never leaves us...we leave it.

>

> That is my story and I am sticking to it. :-)

>

> Love,

>

> Michael

>

> At 10:46 AM 4/30/2002, you wrote:

>

> >Judi --

> >

> >I like what he said about a feeling of deep peace,

> > he writes in a nice, poetic way.

> >

> >But why would a feeling of deep peace be any more

> > real than a feeling of anger?

> >

> >Each occurs from me and of me ... each are my doing ...

> >

> >A person's not just an appearance -- he/she's

> > a doing.

> >

> >The persons appearing, and the objects appearing

> > to the persons, are equally my doing.

> >

> >The awareness to which an object appears is

> > also my doing.

> >

> >Who is doing awareness involves no activity,

> > and isn't a subject or an object --

> > each of which requires the other ...

> >

> >-- Dan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Gregory Goode wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This really is Jean Klein's teaching. The person is not the

> >center of sentience or awareness. Rather, the person is an

appearing

> >object. The person, the ego, the mind, the world - they merely

> >APPEAR. They appear to that which never suffers, is never absent,

> >which never resists, which is clarity itself. The contraction of

> >thoughts, feelings and sensations that appear to make the " me " a

real

> >thing -- these melt way peacefully, without even a goodbye kiss.

> >Then a deep peace is felt,

> > > way beyond the level of the person. Evven as the person is

sick or

> > > dying, the deep peace is felt.

> > >

> > > *** Nice Greg.

> > >

> > > Where troubles melt like lemon drops,

> > > away above the chimney tops,

> > > that's where you'll find me...

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Judi

> >

> >

> >