Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 " Duveyoung " <duveyoung3@e...> Wed Sep 28, 2002 Technique and tradition There is an inherent " weakness " in the human nervous system. It's a lack of faith. Nisargadatta had, according to his reports, total faith in his master's statement that Nisargadatta was Brahman. Thereafter he held onto that concept with faith that his master would not steer him wrongly. That intense faith was the foundation of Nisargadatta's relentless application of his intent and awareness, and finally, after only 2-3 years, he realized. Yet, he does not highly praise his methodology for realization. Why? Because he knew that his real advantage in the situation was his confidence in his guru. That confidence allowed his particular form of " mindfulness " the fullest possible impact upon his mind/body system. This faith is sorely lacking in the world today….even in very religious countries like India. It is almost certain that any seeker you encounter will have tried to " get there " by more than one technique—guru hopping, trying to find a technique that yields bliss or other spiritually defined experiences in short order without any heavy lifting being required. The mind's attention is often referred to as a monkey jumping from branch to branch looking for a sweeter fruit. Like this, the natural tendency of the mind is to seek greater happiness, but when a technique is employed, then the mind is experiencing, to some degree, repetition--which doesn't fit with the mind's definition of happiness. This dissonance is usually THE reason for or a hefty part of the cause of guru hopping. We try a technique, and when we encounter boredom during the use of the technique we discount its efficacy and start looking for greener pastures. We can be assured that Nisargadatta was challenged by every manner of thought and feeling to abandon his technique. Nisargadatta was modeling for all of us that faith does indeed move mountains. Persistence is king—even a mechanical, dogmatically imposed, " mindless " use of a technique can produce the desired result: disidentification with the small self. All this said, let's underline the less obvious: Nisargadatta was born and raised in India and the guru-system of that culture is deeply embedded in it. Imagine, from childhood on, being told that the gurus of the world were light houses of knowledge. That enculturation, that bathing of his mind by his society of " axiomatic " truths, set him up to believe in many, many aspects of the guru system that westerners are quite oppositely taught to reject such as: Guru is God. An ordinary person can become Holy. The absolute exists and nothing else does. Heaven and Hell are temporarily visited between lifetimes. Sin is attachment to, identification with, objects of perception. Karma is accumulative and only partially mitigated by a single lifetime. Etc. etc. Not having these in our western upbringing puts us in a place where we are almost impossibly challenged by the requirements of the various techniques extant, because our western beliefs will be yowling outside our meditation chambers to " have common sense. " This manifests differently in each individual as all the forces of psychology synergistically produce a " spiritual vector " for the seeker that determines how strong the faith will be in a technique. This faith, if weak, doesn't allow the individual enough " room " to really try out the technique; in fact, most techniques are abandoned as ineffectual when most of them work to some degree. Hence, traditional values of a culture are important when determining your own spiritual program. We all know the difference between what we'd think of a person who spent 20 years in an ashram in India and a person who read three books by Nisargadatta. We might be wrong, but we know that we'd honor the 20 year veteran more highly in most instances when a spiritual discussion begins. Why is this? Because we all know the value of constancy, the value of accumulation of wisdom that comes from years of intimacy with spiritual concepts, the synergy that happens over time as these values get deeper into our matrixes, the holistic correlations that saturate our psychological patterns, and the sheer value that SOMETHING held this adherent's attention for twenty years. One guy says, " Read these three books—that'll getcha started. " The other guys says, " Be mindful and watch your world expand. " One guy's impact is far more powerful on everyone who knows his background….and for that matter, even if they don't know….his embodiment of silence will be palpably felt. All the above tells us so clearly that, as westerners, we are going to be hard put to stay the course. It is for this reason that I honor groups, religions, cults, sects, etc. They all offer a supportive environment for spiritual growth and can shore up lagging intents with dogma, fellowship, community, etc. The downside of groups is the bureaucracies that form to run them. These typically take on a role of mind-police which leads to all sorts of abuse. Lots of groups are " open " in that their membership is allowed to have " a life " outside the group, and these can be just the ticket for a western seeker who wants to get questions answered, some fellowship, but not any locked-in commitment to the groups' political machinations. If seekers try to go it alone, without a " proper upbringing, " without a guru, without a deep clarity about the whole conceptual set of spiritual values that " mean across " the entire spectrum of existence and non-existence, and/or without a serious intent to follow one's program with uncommon faith, then most seekers are doomed to failure or to spending decades guru hopping before they settle into the " long haul. " The work. The work. It is about the work. How much time do you spend each day doing mindfulness, or mantra, or a rosary or whatever? You have got to put in the sweat equity. You've got to dump any notion that " I did all the purification last lifetime—so I only need one touch of the peacock feather by XYZ-Guru-INC's District Manager of Mantras. " You've got to commit. You've got to be honest when you waver and talk to yourself about that until some additional clarity is achieved. You've got to apply your seeking to every aspect of life….seeking the best psychology, the best diet, the best lifestyle, etc. Get intense. Do the work. All this trying, of course, achieves NOTHING (in that it cannot make a silk-purse out of your sow's ear,) but it does give you that great advantage: luck favors the prepared (grace arrives to those with open hearts.) All these techniques are great for unraveling the smaller mysteries of psychology, and doing the work sets you up to have the actual wherewithal to surrender identity…and this surrender will be complete….not tentative, partial or largely pretended. The techniques calm you down and give you a lower basal rate of excitation of your general mind/body operations. Every method of purification will culture the nervous system to STAY QUIET. Just staying quiet is the ultimate goal. Just getting out of the way of the gunas as they do ALL the thinking, ALL the feeling, ALL the actions. Quietness, settled-ness, silence filled—these are truly rare qualities of most personalities. Plant the seeds of restful alertness, do the mindfulness, do what you know is right, eat moderately, drink a lot of water, have a lot of green food, dump strong spices, dump salt, go to sleep every night at the same time (10 or earlier is best,) wake up without an alarm being set, do your techniques at the same times every day, speak the truth that is necessary, sweet and factual, and find like minded others to commune with. These are aspects of a strong spiritual program. Realization, " Mark Hovila " <hovila@a...> wrote: > Jerrio, > > It has been said by many sages that in the ultimate sense nobody is bound and nobody is liberated. This is beyond my present understanding. Therefore I am proceeding under the assumption that liberation is possible. It may be that liberation is equivalent to the realization, or understanding, that we are now and have always been free. If this is true, then any efforts undertaken with the thought " I am going to get something I do not now have " are doomed to failure. They will only result in more baggage added to the ego. So my effort, if you can call it that, consists of simply looking at thoughts, sensations, the felt sense of 'I' and all arisings honestly and without evasion, rather than in trying to cultivate some state or other with a technique. I am not looking at these things with the attitude " I am not not these things. " I am trying not to impose a division between the looker and things that the looker is looking at. I am simply looking. Something may eventually come of this effort, but there are of course no guarantees. And the more I think about the results of my effort, the less likely will there be any results. > > I will also add that it seems to me that any effort undertaken in the spirit of " I am God " or " I am neverending bliss, happiness, etc. " is also fraught with problems. It is imposing a condition upon realization. It is saying that if it doesn't feel good, this can't be it. So we will be diverted into looking for the truth in blissful states and ignore any other states that arise. We must be willing to face What Is courageously and with the willingness to see and accept whatever comes, no matter how terrifying. Indeed, some have said that realization is impossible without going through a terrifying period, called by some The Dark Night of the Soul. > > One seeker's perspective. > > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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