Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Gene wrote: > Yes, refinement is possible, and refinement > is generally the result of trial and error, of > 'parsing', trying ways, and then consolidating > what 'works', at the levels one has access to. > > Because identity... is a composite of memories, > current reactions are based on the past. This > should be easy to see. > > If one does not like, or enjoy, the reactions > of the now, the components of identity, > which may be 'viewed' as frames of memory, > may be edited, and in this, is identity refined. > > Each frame of memory has two components; > one component is 'what actually happened', > which is the 'raw data' of experience. > > The other component is 'the meaning of what > happened', and this is laid atop the first > component. 'Meaning' in this sense of use, > includes 'value judgments', or 'value tags' > as I call them. Karta; watch out for them, right? > > Here is the gist: To refine current identity, > remove the 'meaning' of what happened, > leaving only 'what actually happened'. Karta: again a golden advise Love, Karta > Again, thanks for your thanks... > > Comments are welcome... > > > ==Gene Poole== > Gene: > > Because identity... is a composite of memories, > current reactions are based on the past. This > should be easy to see. > > If one does not like, or enjoy, the reactions > of the now, the components of identity, > which may be 'viewed' as frames of memory, > may be edited, and in this, is identity refined. > > Each frame of memory has two components; > one component is 'what actually happened', > which is the 'raw data' of experience. > The other component is 'the meaning of what > happened', and this is laid atop the first > component. 'Meaning' in this sense of use, > includes 'value judgments', or 'value tags' > as I call them. > > Here is the gist: To refine current identity, > remove the 'meaning' of what happened, > leaving only 'what actually happened'. > You may have noticed, that for some people, > each and every event has a meaning, and > for some people, the meaning of each > type of experience, is exactly the same, > and this trend leads to an identity which > is unusually 'idiosyncratic'...very unique, > and thus... entirely predictable. Such > an identity can be used... and by this, I > mean that 'others' can exploit, use...that > identity... like a soccer-ball, which will > always 'obey' when kicked. Who can blame > such a one, for screaming in pain? > > Sure, it may be fun and even educational > to have such an obedient and reactive > identity to kick around... after all, do we > not all have such a component in our > own identities? > > Nonetheless, it is probably > 'better' to treat the reactionary one, with > the same issue of compassion desired for > oneself. > > Karta: good advise > > G: But that does not mean, that fun is not > allowed! I wish to point out, that the > identity of the 'human football' craves > constant confirmation, in the form of > attack... and so the reactive one, will always > find one or more 'victimizers', from which > to draw the energy of reaction. The 'trial > balloon' which is launched by the 'professional > victim', may look like harmless fun, or > sincere inquiry, but is actually a 'troll', as in > the action of the fisherman who drags the lure > in the water, hoping a fish will bite. > > ----- > This insight is the basis for the internet maxim; > > " Do not feed the trolls " . > > Karta: yes, there all kind of trolls; > not just 'victims' looking for a > beating, but trolls who need attention, > or the ones who thrives on creating > chaos, or looking for disciples etc > > from the Webster: > > 3 a : to fish for by trolling b : to fish by trolling in <troll lakes> c : to > pull through the water in trolling > <troll a lure> > intransitive senses > 1 : to move around : RAMBLE > 2 : to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat > > awareness-peace-love, Karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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