Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Realization , " Harvey Schneider " <haarvi1@n...> wrote: > > " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> > <Realization > > Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM > Re: Re: Judi's Ghost? > > [snip] > > > I think Judi has found a permanent state of > > understanding in which part of the ego machinery has > > shut down for good. In such a state, vigilance isn't > > needed anymore. So I think perhaps (and again, I'm > > only guessing), if she made a remark belittling > > vigilance, it's because she thinks she's offering something > > better. > > Hi Rob, > Is enlightenment a state? How could we tell if someone were > in the right state, or even if we were in that state? If enlightenment > is an understanding then it would seem to be subject to a simple > or complex explanation. We could take a multiple choice quiz > and get our enlightenment certificates at the end of the satsang > lecture. > Harvey Enlightenment is a limiting word, just like the words God, Realization, and so on, and so forth, on and on ... Words to make the mind dull and infatuated with its own imaginings of being in states of bliss, completion or permanence. There is no state to be in. Trying to be in a state, trying to have an experience, trying to exist within a subject/object reality is what suffering is. If you're not trying to be in a state, then you no longer attempt existence as a being that enters and leaves states. As Monty Python said: And now, for something completely different ... -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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