Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Realization , " Harvey Schneider " <haarvi1@n...> wrote: > > " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> > <Realization > > Friday, April 11, 2003 2:39 AM > Re: Re: Judi's Ghost? > > [snip] > > > I think she > > really is in the state that she claims to be in. I think a part of > > the ego machinery has ceased functioning in her. I can't > > explain exactly why I believe this. It's some kind of subjective > > intuition on my part. Either you see it or you don't. I can't > > offer any argument to demonstrate that I'm right. > > Hi Bob, > I wonder why you might think enlightenment involves the ceasing to > function of ego machinery. Why should anything have to stop? > We are told that the old person has died. But who is the one telling > us this? > Harvey The one for whom there is no " me " and " you " separated. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 > Hi Bob,> I wonder why you might think enlightenment involves the ceasing to> function of ego machinery. Why should anything have to stop? > We are told that the old person has died. But who is the one telling> us this?> HarveyThe one for whom there is no "me" and "you" separated.Dan ******** Yes, it's one of those "you got to be there" deals, otherwise it goes right over your head. There is no sufficient "explanation". Does not "compute". So it's always a mis-understanding. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@z...> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > I wonder why you might think enlightenment involves the ceasing to > > function of ego machinery. Why should anything have to stop? > > We are told that the old person has died. But who is the one > telling > > us this? > > Harvey > > The one for whom there is no " me " and " you " separated. > > Dan > > ******** Yes, it's one of those " you got to be there " deals, otherwise it goes right over your head. There is no sufficient " explanation " . Does not " compute " . So it's always a mis- understanding. > > Judi Quite so. You see it on these so-called nondual lists all the time. And it does go right over their head or through their legs. They think it's a rabbit, and they start shooting at it. Then, they go back to being a happy meditator. They never look for one moment at their own spite, self-justification, resentment, frustration. They think all of that has been hidden so carefully that no one can see it. They have hidden it carefully from themselves by calling it bliss, a spiritual journey, things like that. Of course, they can't understand what someone is talking about if someone is saying that by trying to manufacture states for yourself to be in, that *is* the activity of suffering. To them, it is their bliss, the meaning of their lives. And it's really no different than when someone else makes money, power, status or sex the meaning of their life. It's the same self-activity in its spiritual clothes. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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