Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 > Remembering that Paul Brunton had some of those > difficulties at the Ramana ashram and left. Am I > right about that Rob? Why did Brunton leave Ramana? Brunton claimed that he was banned by Sri Ramana's ashram because Brunton in 1941 published a book that was slightly critical of Sri Ramana. A lot of people believe this, and this is probably the story you're referring to. However, like so many things that Brunton said, this was a lie. In fact, Brunton got banned in 1939 before the book was published. David Godman recently discovered textual proof of this in the library of Sri Ramanasramam and printed it in "Living by the Words of Bhagavan" on page 192. In that same book, Annamalai Swami explains what I take to be the real reason why Brunton got banned. In 1934 Brunton had published an earlier book, the one that made both him and Sri Ramana famous, "Search In Secret India." Not only did this book make both men famous, but it also made piles of money for Brunton. According to Annamalai Swami, Sri Ramana's brother banned Brunton because "he hadn't asked for permission to write about Bhagavan or given any profits from the book to the ashram." This was not unusual behavior for Sri Ramama's brother. He used expulsions and threats of expulsions to maintain order at the ashram. David Godman discovered that the original manuscript of "Talks With Ramana Maharshi" contains a record of Brunton getting banned. It happened in March, 1939. However this portion of "Talks" was deleted prior to publication and does not appear in the printed versions. The whole story, including both the transcript from the manuscript of Talks and Annamalai Swami's recollections, are included in David Godman's book "Living by the Words of Bhagavan" on pages 191-94. Historically, Rob - ALTON SLATER Realization Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:55 AM Re: Sarlo's posting about Nome and Russ Dear Rob and Richard: I deleted the original message that I posted. The reason for doing so is that I did not check with Richard to see if any of it was true. Reading what was presented led me to question the authenticity of what was offered. It appears that some of the negative stuff was from a few disgruntled ex members who were not even willing to own up to what they experienced. It seemed like an unfair hearsay presentation and Richard has offered some of his experiences with Nome and Russell that says that is true. Some of the dialogues of Nome and Russell have been shared with me and they are so interesting that I keep reading it over and over again. Remembering that Paul Brunton had some of those difficulties at the Ramana ashram and left. Am I right about that Rob? Why did Brunton leave Ramana? Love, Alton Hi Richard,I'm a little confused by your message. I don't think Sarloever posted in this mail group. Karta recently quotedsomething here by Sarlo, but I don't think it mentionedSAT. Are you talking about this link that Alton posted?www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Yjeffruss.htm It seems like pretty mild criticism to me.Cheers,Rob- "Richard Clarke" <rclarke<Realization >Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:13 AM Sarlo's posting about Nome and Russ> Dear Group,> > A member of this group called my attention to this posting knowing > that I regularly go to satsang at SAT. We wanted me to make some kind > of 'rebuttal.' I will comment, but not make some kind of detailed > rebuttal...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 P.S. I should have made clear that Sri Ramana's brother was the manager of the ashram. Also, Georg Feuerstein, the well-known yoga scholar, wrote a nice article about Brunton that summarizes Brunton's explanation of his expulsion from the ashram. That article is on the web at this location: http://www.yrec.org/brunton.html - Rob Sacks Realization Saturday, April 26, 2003 8:04 PM Why Brunton Got Banned From Ramana's Ashram > Remembering that Paul Brunton had some of those > difficulties at the Ramana ashram and left. Am I > right about that Rob? Why did Brunton leave Ramana? Brunton claimed that he was banned by Sri Ramana's ashram because Brunton in 1941 published a book that was slightly critical of Sri Ramana. A lot of people believe this, and this is probably the story you're referring to. However, like so many things that Brunton said, this was a lie. In fact, Brunton got banned in 1939 before the book was published. David Godman recently discovered textual proof of this in the library of Sri Ramanasramam and printed it in "Living by the Words of Bhagavan" on page 192. In that same book, Annamalai Swami explains what I take to be the real reason why Brunton got banned. In 1934 Brunton had published an earlier book, the one that made both him and Sri Ramana famous, "Search In Secret India." Not only did this book make both men famous, but it also made piles of money for Brunton. According to Annamalai Swami, Sri Ramana's brother banned Brunton because "he hadn't asked for permission to write about Bhagavan or given any profits from the book to the ashram." This was not unusual behavior for Sri Ramama's brother. He used expulsions and threats of expulsions to maintain order at the ashram. David Godman discovered that the original manuscript of "Talks With Ramana Maharshi" contains a record of Brunton getting banned. It happened in March, 1939. However this portion of "Talks" was deleted prior to publication and does not appear in the printed versions. The whole story, including both the transcript from the manuscript of Talks and Annamalai Swami's recollections, are included in David Godman's book "Living by the Words of Bhagavan" on pages 191-94. Historically, Rob - ALTON SLATER Realization Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:55 AM Re: Sarlo's posting about Nome and Russ Dear Rob and Richard: I deleted the original message that I posted. The reason for doing so is that I did not check with Richard to see if any of it was true. Reading what was presented led me to question the authenticity of what was offered. It appears that some of the negative stuff was from a few disgruntled ex members who were not even willing to own up to what they experienced. It seemed like an unfair hearsay presentation and Richard has offered some of his experiences with Nome and Russell that says that is true. Some of the dialogues of Nome and Russell have been shared with me and they are so interesting that I keep reading it over and over again. Remembering that Paul Brunton had some of those difficulties at the Ramana ashram and left. Am I right about that Rob? Why did Brunton leave Ramana? Love, Alton Hi Richard,I'm a little confused by your message. I don't think Sarloever posted in this mail group. Karta recently quotedsomething here by Sarlo, but I don't think it mentionedSAT. Are you talking about this link that Alton posted?www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Yjeffruss.htm It seems like pretty mild criticism to me.Cheers,Rob- "Richard Clarke" <rclarke<Realization >Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:13 AM Sarlo's posting about Nome and Russ> Dear Group,> > A member of this group called my attention to this posting knowing > that I regularly go to satsang at SAT. We wanted me to make some kind > of 'rebuttal.' I will comment, but not make some kind of detailed > rebuttal...........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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