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Over the last few months we've received a few spam emails

here that advertise pornographic websites. I think the problem

is likely to get worse as time goes on.

 

If you're reading this message in the archive you won't see the

spam, because it has been deleted.

 

We had a discussion here of what to do about the problem.

(This discussion is also missing from the archive because some

of the messages quoted the offensive spam emails, so I deleted

the thread.)

 

The discussion revealed that some members find the spam

extremely offensive, so I've decided to make the following

changes to try to prevent spam in both current messages and

the archive.

 

-- From now on, new membes will be moderated. That means

that their messages will be reviewed by a moderator before

publishes the messages in the group. Once it becomes

apparent that a new member has not joined in order to

advertise a pornographic website, he or she will be given

normal publishing privileges.

 

-- All spam emails that are already in the archive will be

deleted. (I just deleted a few that appeared over the last

few months, and I'll check more carefully later to see if I

missed any).

 

-- Rob, in moderator mode

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Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Over the last few months we've received a few spam emails

> here that advertise pornographic websites. I think the problem

> is likely to get worse as time goes on.

>

> If you're reading this message in the archive you won't see the

> spam, because it has been deleted.

>

> We had a discussion here of what to do about the problem.

> (This discussion is also missing from the archive because some

> of the messages quoted the offensive spam emails, so I deleted

> the thread.)

>

> The discussion revealed that some members find the spam

> extremely offensive, so I've decided to make the following

> changes to try to prevent spam in both current messages and

> the archive.

>

> -- From now on, new membes will be moderated. That means

> that their messages will be reviewed by a moderator before

> publishes the messages in the group. Once it becomes

> apparent that a new member has not joined in order to

> advertise a pornographic website, he or she will be given

> normal publishing privileges.

>

> -- All spam emails that are already in the archive will be

> deleted. (I just deleted a few that appeared over the last

> few months, and I'll check more carefully later to see if I

> missed any).

>

> -- Rob, in moderator mode

 

 

 

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  " Era " <mi_nok>

Date:  Thu Sep 25, 2003  4:46 am

Subject:  Re: New policies regarding spam

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Over the last few months we've received a few spam emails

> here that advertise pornographic websites. I think the problem

> is likely to get worse as time goes on.

>

> If you're reading this message in the archive you won't see the

> spam, because it has been deleted.

>

> We had a discussion here of what to do about the problem.

> (This discussion is also missing from the archive because some

> of the messages quoted the offensive spam emails, so I deleted

> the thread.)

>

> The discussion revealed that some members find the spam

> extremely offensive, so I've decided to make the following

> changes to try to prevent spam in both current messages and

> the archive.

>

> -- From now on, new membes will be moderated. That means

> that their messages will be reviewed by a moderator before

> publishes the messages in the group. Once it becomes

> apparent that a new member has not joined in order to

> advertise a pornographic website, he or she will be given

> normal publishing privileges.

>

> -- All spam emails that are already in the archive will be

> deleted. (I just deleted a few that appeared over the last

> few months, and I'll check more carefully later to see if I

> missed any).

>

> -- Rob, in moderator mode

 

Rob,

 

your moderating is unique

 

you deleted my 6 of messages mostly to

Alton

 

they were not porno spams

 

I have the one before the last:

 

Message 2983 " Era " <mi_nok>

<lower energies.> ?!

 

LOW ?

 

next to the drive for survival the

horeseshit quest of looking for

 

REALIZATION IS NEXT TO NOTHING

 

Karta

 

K: EXACTLY!

 

the atmosphere here is unbarable

 

THE LOWEST ON TH NET

 

A: Era, You speak with a forked tongue.

You take every opportunity on my group to talk about that stuff. In fact yo=

u

are the only one who keeps bringing up

the lower energies.

 

Love,

Alton

 

 

In the next message deleted I added

that there is no other energy avaible

to us than the chi, or sex, or name it

as you wish

 

the key is in the focus, in transcending

in channeling that sacred energy

 

take care, Karta

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Hi Era,

 

> your moderator is unique

 

> you deleted my 6 messages mostly to Alton

 

> they were not porno spams

 

This reminds me of the old saying: " Be careful what you

ask for, because you may get it. "

 

I deleted the whole thread for two reasons:

 

(a) all the messages, including yours, contained the subject

line from the original spam, and I thought that this was as

spammy and as sexually explicit as anything in the body of the

spam; and

 

(b) the easiest way for me to remove quoted portions of the

spam from the archive, as I had been asked to do, was to

delete the whole thread.

 

All you need to do, if you want to continue part of that earlier

conversation, is repost portions of the old thread in a new one.

That's exactly what you've done here.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

-

" Era " <mi_nok

<Realization >

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:46 PM

Re: New policies regarding spam

 

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Over the last few months we've received a few spam emails

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Rob:

Can you promise to tell us at least the subject of the messages that you wont repost on the group and how do we know that you wont get off on some of them. I mean is that being "spiritual" LOL.

 

Love,

Alton

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Dear Alton,

 

> Can you promise to tell us at least the subject of the messages

> that you wont repost on the group.

 

Use your own judgment. Members of the group were disturbed by

the original spam and somebody asked me to delete quotations

from it. The subject field in this case was a quotation.

 

> how do we know that you wont get off on some of them. I mean is

> that being "spiritual" LOL.

 

I did this because I was asked to.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

 

-

THE CONTENTED ONE

Realization

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:36 PM

Re: Re: New policies regarding spam

 

Rob:

Can you promise to tell us at least the subject of the messages that you wont repost on the group and how do we know that you wont get off on some of them. I mean is that being "spiritual" LOL.

 

Love,

Alton

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Dear Rob:

Is this the democratic way? Shouldn't we ask all the members for their views about moderating new members? Or at least those who have a view on that. I had some of my posts moderated on the Pagan group that Deb belongs to and they did not even tell me that they did not like what I was posting. So I left that group.

 

I wasn't all that serious about some of the issues in my post below. Just my weird sense of humor getting the way again.

 

Love,

Alton

 

 

Dear Alton,

 

> Can you promise to tell us at least the subject of the messages

> that you wont repost on the group.

 

Use your own judgment. Members of the group were disturbed by

the original spam and somebody asked me to delete quotations

from it. The subject field in this case was a quotation.

 

> how do we know that you wont get off on some of them. I mean is

> that being "spiritual" LOL.

 

I did this because I was asked to.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

 

 

Rob:

Can you promise to tell us at least the subject of the messages that you wont repost on the group and how do we know that you wont get off on some of them. I mean is that being "spiritual" LOL.

 

Love,

Alton

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Dear Alton,

 

> Is this the democratic way? Shouldn't we ask all the members

> for their views about moderating new members?

 

We just went through a long discussion here in which it was clear

that the consensus is to to exclude spam advertisements for porn

websites from the group. The least-intrusive way to accomplish

this is to moderate the first message from each new member. If it's a

spam advertisement for a porn website, I'll delete the message so it

never appears in the group. If it's any other kind of message, I'll click

"okay" and promote the member to non-moderated membership.

 

I have no intention of using this to censor the content of

people's messages to suit my own notions. The only purpose

is to exclude advertisements for porn websites.

 

> I had some of my posts moderated on the Pagan group that Deb

> belongs to and they did not even tell me

 

I'm not going to do anything with real posts except click "okay"

and promote the person to full membership.

 

I'm only going to use this to exclude spam advertisements for

porn websites.

 

 

> Is this the democratic way? Shouldn't we ask all the members

> for their views about moderating new members?

 

If you're not satisfied by what I've written above then of course,

discuss it further or do anything else you like.

 

I'll do whatever the group wants about these spam messages.

 

If it was up to me, I would just ignore them and not bother with

any of this, but I'm trying to accomodate what other people want.

 

> I wasn't all that serious about some of the issues in my post below.

 

Really? No kidding! :)

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

 

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THE CONTENTED ONE

Realization

Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:13 AM

Re: Re: New policies regarding spam

 

Dear Rob:

Is this the democratic way? Shouldn't we ask all the members for their views about moderating new members? Or at least those who have a view on that. I had some of my posts moderated on the Pagan group that Deb belongs to and they did not even tell me

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Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Hi Era,

>

> > your moderator is unique

>

> > you deleted my 6 messages mostly to Alton

>

> > they were not porno spams

>

> This reminds me of the old saying: " Be careful what you

> ask for, because you may get it. "

>

> I deleted the whole thread for two reasons:

>

> (a) all the messages, including yours, contained the subject

> line from the original spam, and I thought that this was as

> spammy and as sexually explicit as anything in the body of the

> spam; and

>

> (b) the easiest way for me to remove quoted portions of the

> spam from the archive, as I had been asked to do, was to

> delete the whole thread.

>

> All you need to do, if you want to continue part of that earlier

> conversation, is repost portions of the old thread in a new one.

> That's exactly what you've done here.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Rob

 

> > Over the last few months we've received a few spam emails

 

 

hello Rob,

 

that makes perfect sense, thanks

for explaining it to me

 

love, Karta

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