Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 All happening are only in body consciousness. Personalities only exist in body consciousness. The usual knowledge is concerned only with the body image. You are not the body, you are the consciousness. There is no imprint of personality; it is the manifest consciousness, which is functioning. This dynamic, manifest consciousness is always in a fluid state. What will happen no one can say. This dynamic consciousness does not have any concept that something good or bad is going to happen to it; it is just happening. No one is doing it. The message " I Am " is there. The mind-flow is also there; it is not a personality, it is the consciousness. The very idea that you are the body is ridiculous; the consciousness is experiencing its manifestation. A rare being will realize this. The worldly life of a jnani means the total functioning of consciousness. Normally, a person who is always thinking of others as personalities will not think of others simply as a function in consciousness. The play of the consciousness will not come down to an individual level. It is quite different, it is manifestation only. Are you not a disciple of a great Sage? How many years have you been going to him? Q: For seven or eight years. M: Then why did you come here? Q: I wanted to have you Darshan, I wanted to meet you. M: When you are stabilized in your own self then there is no otherness, you are everything. If you abide in your Self you are like space and there is no duality left. You are as expansive and as subtle as space, and that is liberation. You are not conditioned by any name or form. If you are like space, what is the point of going elsewhere? The space which is here is also everywhere else. Spirituality is not a child's play. My sentences will tear to pieces the doubts of anyone who listens to them. First of all, you abide in your own Self and transcend it, and in transcending, you will realize your Ultimate. The words emanating here are not borrowed knowledge, which is available in scriptures and other books; this is from direct experience. Nirupana means the normal practice of these professional spiritual people; they will be expounding knowledge from various books. You must thoroughly understand what you are, or what you could be when nothing is. When nothing is, you still are. What is that you? It is all one and when everything is, still you are; that is understandable, buy when nothing is, how can I be? June 21, 1981 Maharaj: Any image you have of yourself is not true. True knowledge is to abide in your own Self. Try to understand all this knowledge, which you are now gathering. The so-called knowledge, which you are now gathering. The so-called knowledge you get elsewhere talks only about ignorance; it cannot talk about the Self, true knowledge. All of what is pursued by the mind it is not true knowledge. True knowledge cannot be understood easily. If I had the experience " I Am " before, would I care to enter the womb of my mother? Prior to entering the womb I did not know myself, there was no knowledge of " I Amness " All so-called knowledge is tainted by words, which is only ignorance. You, the Absolute, watch the waking state, you know the consciousness, you know the sleeping state; therefore, you are not that. Among the millions of people who have come and gone, where am I counted among them? There is not individuality connected with any of those forms, but I have always been, and I am, the total functioning. Without me the functioning cannot take place. I am the total functioning every moment, million of years ago or now. In spite of my clearly understanding the foregoing, the bodily suffering has to be undergone because of the consciousness. The name of the consciousness is suffering itself. The life of suffering is nearly over. Whatever this principle is, together with the body and consciousness, it is experiencing all the sufferings and knows itself that it is worth million of dollars, like a keg of gold. This principle, which has understood and realized what the suffering and the consciousness are, is worth millions. I do not follow the spirituality of the masses. In this space spirituality of the common type will not be doled out to you. That Ultimate you can never be lost; what ever you have lost, you have lost only the words. That Ultimate you knows or feels " I Am " without words. Through this; I AM " comes the world knowledge. You are not in isolation; you are part and parcel of the world knowledge. Jivatman is the one who identifies with the body-mind as an individual separate from the world. The Atman is only beingness, or the consciousness, which is the world. The Ultimate principle, which knows this beingness, cannot be named at all. It cannot be approached or conditioned by any words. That is the Ultimate state. I do not want meek and humble disciples, I want them to be powerful as I am. I do not make disciples, I make Gurus. I want you to jump in the test tube in the process of this investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 > I do not want meek and humble disciples, I want them to be > powerful as I am. I do not make disciples, I make Gurus. These are stirring words, but are they true? How many Gurus did Sri Nisargadatta make? David Godman once asked Sri Nisargadatta how many of his students had realized the Self. David tells the story in this fascinating interview: http://www.davidgodman.org/interviews/nis1.shtml - " Era " <mi_nok <Realization > Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:41 AM Dynamic Consciousness > All happening are only in body consciousness. Personalities only > exist in body consciousness. The usual knowledge is concerned only > with the body.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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