my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened ones

[Guest guest]

> Jeff just banned me hehehe from his

> naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz

>

> Sharon aka Gangak gives out psycho

> analisysis without a licence which sounds

> like she is analysing her ownself.

>

> Devi is a mother of 5 and also thinks she

> passed Nirvi Kalpa Samadhi and is guru

> in her mind

>

> sweet jesus!!! talking about the blind

> leading the blider!

>

> all 3 of them tick me off

>

> here is the post what outraged Jeff

 

> parting thoughts on Lakshmi

>

> I hope, that dear Sharon will edit

> Swami_G herself to refrain from

> advertising a 'blown out " sate and

> leave her halo at home

> when going to public places

>

> And Devi dearest will wait patiently

> for her enlightenment and will not

> try to force a whole club to participate

> in make believe game of lets pretend

> we all live in smadhi now

>

> than the grace from the Lakshi wasn't

> waisted

>

> I have much much more editing to do on

>  karta

>

> all in love namaste

>

> -----

> http://www.n0by.de/2/a2z/jeff_belyea.htm

 

 

I will be sane even if everyone thinks

that I am Crazy

 

 

 

I rebel against the *enlightenment*

maffia taking over the cyberspace of

slick canmen in the biz of selling

enlightenment, of tyrant unenlightened moderators, deluded *enlightened*

beings on spyche medicine claiming to

live in Nirvi Kalpa, some are walking

around with halos and psycho-swamis

holder of wisdom while putting down

others as dumb as being only 'seekers'

and sweet ladies, who mistake flowery

speech with real wisdom

 

there should be a law against such

conduct !!

 

THNAKS GOD MY PC IS DOWN and I can't

read my e-mails

[Guest guest]

Realization , " satkartar14 " <satkarta4@j...> wrote:

>

> > Jeff just banned me hehehe from his

> > naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz

> >

> > Sharon aka Gangak gives out psycho

> > analisysis without a licence which sounds

> > like she is analysing her ownself.

> >

> > Devi is a mother of 5 and also thinks she

> > passed Nirvi Kalpa Samadhi and is guru

> > in her mind

> >

> > sweet jesus!!! talking about the blind

> > leading the blider!

> >

> > all 3 of them tick me off

> >

> > here is the post what outraged Jeff

>

> > parting thoughts on Lakshmi

> >

> > I hope, that dear Sharon will edit

> > Swami_G herself to refrain from

> > advertising a 'blown out " sate and

> > leave her halo at home

> > when going to public places

> >

> > And Devi dearest will wait patiently

> > for her enlightenment and will not

> > try to force a whole club to participate

> > in make believe game of lets pretend

> > we all live in smadhi now

> >

> > than the grace from the Lakshi wasn't

> > waisted

> >

> > I have much much more editing to do on

> >  karta

> >

> > all in love namaste

> >

> > -----

> > http://www.n0by.de/2/a2z/jeff_belyea.htm

>

>

> I will be sane even if everyone thinks

> that I am Crazy

>

>

>

> I rebel against the *enlightenment*

> maffia taking over the cyberspace of

> slick canmen in the biz of selling

> enlightenment, of tyrant unenlightened moderators, deluded *enlightened* =

 

> beings on spyche medicine claiming to

> live in Nirvi Kalpa, some are walking

> around with halos and psycho-swamis

> holder of wisdom while putting down

> others as dumb being only 'seekers',

> and sweet ladies, who mistake flowery

> speech with real wisdom

>

> there should be a law against such

> conduct !!

>

> THNAKS GOD MY PC IS DOWN and I can't

> read my e-mails

 

 

and moroms for month told me that I

hate, I hate peple personally

 

I don't hate, I was trying my best to

get along and I was loving

 

Sharon changed an iota for the better

and that is what I tried to say at

Jeff's

 

and remind Devi of the games she playes,

not because I hate them

 

BUT THEY ALWAYS PULL A FAST ON ON ME

[Guest guest]

Dear Karta,

 

> > all 3 of them tick me off

 

Who cares what they think? What difference does it make?

 

Opinions are just sounds in the air. Yours or mine or

anybody's.

 

Why do you let them get you angry? It's a waste of your

time and energy.

 

> I rebel against the *enlightenment*

> maffia taking over the cyberspace ...

 

They can't take it over because anybody can start one of

these groups whenever they want.

 

But no matter how many new groups are started, the new

groups will be like the old ones.

 

The same conversations will take place over and over again.

 

That's just how it is, because that's how people are.

 

We're not responsible for it. There's nothing we can do

about it. There's no reason to be bothered by it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

-

" satkartar14 " <satkarta4

<Realization >

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:24 PM

Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened

ones

 

 

 

> Jeff just banned me hehehe from his

> naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz

>

[Guest guest]

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Dear Karta,

>

> > > all 3 of them tick me off

>

> Who cares what they think? What difference does it make?

>

> Opinions are just sounds in the air. Yours or mine or

> anybody's.

>

> Why do you let them get you angry?

 

 

you are wise Rob,

 

I was angry for a couple weeks when

at Sarlos I was mistreated and abused

and grossly misread so I felt helpless against such insanity,but it melted down

 

I am not angry for over a week now,

and this new banning just slapped me

sideways

 

I am an emotional person, as most

artists are, and my language is way way

out of proportion, but I don't dwell on

of my blowouts, its gone by the time

I am finished cursing

 

I do feel love toward Devi and Ganga

and toward Jeff some, and

 

I don't understand anyting

 

 

love,

Karta

 

 

 

 

 

It's a waste of your

> time and energy.

>

> > I rebel against the *enlightenment*

> > maffia taking over the cyberspace ...

>

> They can't take it over because anybody can start one of

> these groups whenever they want.

>

> But no matter how many new groups are started, the new

> groups will be like the old ones.

>

> The same conversations will take place over and over again.

>

> That's just how it is, because that's how people are.

>

> We're not responsible for it. There's nothing we can do

> about it. There's no reason to be bothered by it.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Rob

>

> -

> " satkartar14 " <satkarta4@j...>

> <Realization >

> Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:24 PM

> Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened

ones

>

>

>

> > Jeff just banned me hehehe from his

> > naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Karta,

 

> I don't understand anyting

 

Ah, you're lucky. To know that you don't understand

is wisdom.

 

To abandon the effort to try to understand is grace.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

-

" satkartar14 " <satkarta4

<Realization >

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:01 AM

Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened

ones

 

 

> Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> > Dear Karta,

> >

> > > > all 3 of them tick me off

> >

[Guest guest]

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Dear Karta,

>

> > I don't understand anyting

>

> Ah, you're lucky. To know that you don't understand

> is wisdom.

>

> To abandon the effort to try to understand is grace.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Rob

 

yes, how wise and its inline with the

wakedown letgo thingy

 

thanks for eveything Rob

 

> > > Dear Karta,

> > >

> > > > > all 3 of them tick me off

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Karta:

I left most of the groups that I belonged to except James' because no one is on his group and I did not want to hurt his feelings.

 

Going through some heavy duty changes. Back to my meditation quest of negating the world by holding the "I" thought until no objects appear.

 

Hey I forgive you, but please dont send me any spiritual stuff. OK? No more Realization stuff. OK?

Love,

Alton

 

-

satkartar14

Realization

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:53 AM

Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened ones

Realization , "Rob Sacks" <editor@r...> wrote:> Dear Karta,> > > > all 3 of them tick me off> > Who cares what they think? What difference does it make? > > Opinions are just sounds in the air. Yours or mine or> anybody's. > > Why do you let them get you angry? you are wise Rob,I was angry for a couple weeks when at Sarlos I was mistreated and abused and grossly by that misread I felt helpless against fell into such insanitybut it melted downI am not angry for over a week now, and this new banning just slapped me sidewaysI am an emotional person, most artistsare, and my language is way out of proportion, but don't dwell on of one my blowouts, its gone by the time I am finished cursingI do feel love toward Devi and Ganga and I don't understand anyting love, KartaIt's a waste of your> time and energy.> > > I rebel against the *enlightenment* > > maffia taking over the cyberspace ...> > They can't take it over because anybody can start one of > these groups whenever they want. > > But no matter how many new groups are started, the new> groups will be like the old ones.> > The same conversations will take place over and over again.> > That's just how it is, because that's how people are. > > We're not responsible for it. There's nothing we can do> about it. There's no reason to be bothered by it.> > Best wishes,> > Rob> > - > "satkartar14" <satkarta4@j...>> <Realization >> Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:24 PM> Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded enlightened ones> > > > > Jeff just banned me hehehe from his> > naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz> >..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................

[Guest guest]

>

> Going through some heavy duty changes. Back to my meditation quest

of negating the world by holding the " I " thought until no objects

appear.

 

devi: hi alton, that sounds like good plan, that state would be

called nirvikalpa samadhi...(i do believe)..

[Guest guest]

Hi dear Alton,

 

> Dear Karta:

> I left most of the groups that I belonged to except James' because no one is

on his group and I did not want to hurt his feelings.

>

> Going through some heavy duty changes. Back to my meditation

 

 

I am happy for you, my neck area still

goes through such intense internal

pressure and pain, when I meditate that

I can't bare :-(

 

 

>quest of negating the world by holding the " I " thought until no objects appear.

>

> Hey I forgive you, but please dont send me any spiritual stuff.

 

 

thanks I know you will

 

it wasn't me who sent you any

 

 

OK? No more Realization stuff. OK?

 

have a great tripp to London

 

love, Karta

 

> Love,

> Alton

 

 

> > Dear Karta,

> >

> > > > all 3 of them tick me off

> >

> > Who cares what they think? What difference does it make?

> >

> > Opinions are just sounds in the air. Yours or mine or

> > anybody's.

> >

> > Why do you let them get you angry?

>

>

>

> you are wise Rob,

>

> I was angry for a couple weeks when

> at Sarlos I was mistreated and abused

> and grossly by that misread I felt

> helpless against fell into such insanity

> but it melted down

>

> I am not angry for over a week now,

> and this new banning just slapped me

> sideways

>

> I am an emotional person, most artists

> are, and my language is way out of proportion, but don't dwell on of one

> my blowouts, its gone by the time I am finished cursing

>

> I do feel love toward Devi and Ganga

> and I don't understand anyting

>

>

> love,

> Karta

>

>

>

> It's a waste of your

> > time and energy.

> >

> > > I rebel against the *enlightenment*

> > > maffia taking over the cyberspace ...

> >

> > They can't take it over because anybody can start one of

> > these groups whenever they want.

> >

> > But no matter how many new groups are started, the new

> > groups will be like the old ones.

> >

> > The same conversations will take place over and over again.

> >

> > That's just how it is, because that's how people are.

> >

> > We're not responsible for it. There's nothing we can do

> > about it. There's no reason to be bothered by it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Rob

> >

> > -

> > " satkartar14 " <satkarta4@j...>

> > <Realization >

> > Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:24 PM

> > Re: my vote is on the wakedown vs deluded

enlightened ones

> >

> >

> >

> > > Jeff just banned me hehehe from his

> > > naturalenlightenment, he is in the biz

> > >

>

>

>