Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 D: Should I then consider Sri Bhagavan as talking to me in a waking- dreaming-sleeping state? M: Because your conscious experience is now limited to the duration of the extroversion of the mind, you call the present moment the waking state, whereas all the while your mind has been asleep to the Self, and therefore you are now really fast asleep. D: To me sleep is a mere blankness. M: That is so, because your waking state is a mere effervescence of the restless mind. D: What I mean by blankness is that I am hardly aware of anything in my sleep; it is for me the same as non-existence. M: But you did exist during sleep. D: If I did, I was not aware of it. M: You do not mean to say in all seriousness you ceased to exist during your sleep! (laughing) If you went to sleep as Mr: X, did you get up fro it as Mr. Y? D: I know my identity, perhaps , by and act of memory. M: Granting that, how is it possible unless there is a continuity of awareness? D: But I was unaware of that awareness. M: No. Who says you are unaware in sleep? It is your mind. But there was no mind in your sleep? Of what value is the testimony of the mind about your existence or experience during sleep? Seeking the testimony of the mind to disprove your existence or awareness during sleep is just like calling your son's evidence to disprove your birth! Do you remember, I told you once previously that existence and awareness are not two different things but one and the same? Well, if for any reason you feel constrained to admit the fact that you exited in sleep be sure you were also aware of the existence. What you were really unaware of in sleep is your bodily existence. You are confounding this bodily awareness with the true awareness of the Self, which is eternal. Prajnana, which is the source of " I " -am " -ness " ever subsists unaffected by the three transitory states of the mind, thus enabling you to retain your identity unimpaired. Prajnana is also beyond the three states, because it can subsist without them and in spite of them. It is that Reality that you should seek during your so-called waking state by tracing the aham-vrtti to its source. Intense practice in this inquiry will reveal that the mind and its three states are unreal and that you are the eternal, infinite Consciousness of pure Being, the Self, or the Heart. From The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi...Shambala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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