Éric Baret: Interview #6

[Guest guest]

INTERVIEWER: What do you mean by " turn your head " ?

 

It means you must realize that you can never look, that everything

looks at you, that you are the space where perception happens. There

is nobody looking, there is only looking. So, once this has come

alive, " turn your head " , or " step back " , resonate as a trigger to

awareness, awareness that it is not a memory. These pertain only to

clarity. That is why, even if it seems as if there is something to

be

done, and if it seems that there are levels of varying depth, they

are only levels of understanding.

 

On the first level, the person really lives in the becoming process.

He is trying to become enlightened, to reach something and he

doesn't

know what. Then the person becomes a little bit more humble and

realizes that what he thinks cannot lead him to truth. He opens up

to

feeling. Energy is feeling, feeling is energy. He asks his feelings

to bring him back to the resonance. But too bad, this doesn't work

either. So, humility grows a little more and he realizes that

nothing

he can ever feel, or think, can ever take him beyond seeing and

feeling. At that very moment, he falls silent, not out of will, but

because faced with the clear evidence that he can never attain what

is unattainable. In that moment, the third way, the way of Shiva,

appears, which is wonderment. So, every perception is pure

wonderment, because you realize that there has never been any such

thing as perception. There is only being. I don't perceive anything.

I am everything. So, even the idea of perceiving leaves you totally.

We never perceive anything, we are what we perceive, on the

essential

level; this fact never becomes a thought. That is why Ibn' Arabi

said: " The one who has seen God and knows he has seen God hasn't

seen

God. "

 

These things are not to be practiced, they are to be lived in

humility, in silence. Then they really come alive. Anyone who

undertakes them with the idea of attaining something will always

remain restricted by limitations, like the kaivalya state of the

Yoga

Sutras, where the Purushas separate themselves from limitations and

finally remain separate Purushas. Ultimately there is only silence,

so there can never be any personal achievement of freedom. Of

course,

kaivalya, from the higher point of view, the one Gopinath Kaviraj

talks about, is different. The kaivalya of the Yoga Sutras is a

highly satwic state, but it is still a state one can attain.

 

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