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INTERVIEWER: If all there is, is cause and effect, then the

answer " causes " the question…

 

Yes, without the forefeeling of the answer, one cannot ask the

question. In fact, the question is the sign that the answer is

looking for itself, or that the question is looking for itself. The

thinker is the thought. I don't look for something. We can never see

what is to be found. When I see untruth, what remains is truth. You

cannot remove the snake, you can only see the rope. Then there is no

snake. But if I try to remove the snake, I never see the rope: I'm

blocked by the snake. So, I realize clearly that I cannot be

different, I accept that. I live with my pretensions, I shut up

about

them, I notice that I think I should be different, that I think I

should not be pretentious. When I clearly acknowledge my pretension,

without the pretension that I should be without pretension, again I

am brought back to the resonance. What is there is not something

that

has to be removed in order to find truth. It becomes evident that it

is truth itself, looking for itself. So, what happens to me now is

the truth, whatever it is. It is only my story that thinks that

truth

is over there, my story that says I must not feel depressed, and

thus

I deny divinity. What I feel now is silence and so I shut up. Thus,

I

live with what happens from moment to moment and there is no other

way.

 

Truth is not " something " to be felt, or to be experienced; it is the

constant experience of non-truth. It is a non-experience and that is

why it never happened to anybody and that is why one cannot live in

truth. One can only see that one lives in untruth. To be free is not

an occupation. You are what you are. Jean was a musician, he was

not " free " . He was what he was. Shankaracharya created rituals to

celebrate Surya, Lakshmi and Ganesha. He wrote hymns of freedom! His

function was to be a teacher. Nobody is free, it is a fantasy. We

need this fantasy to keep ourselves knowingly unhappy, to maintain

the claim that we will attain happiness once we become like this or

like that, to maintain the pretense that we exist. We don't. Glory

to

Him.

 

 

His site here:

http://www.bhairava.ws/english/eric-eng.html

 

Without either diploma or culture, Éric Baret has no special

competence. Touched by the non dual tradition through Jean Klein's

teaching, he proposes that one turns towards listening free of any

notion of gain. Nothing taught, no teacher.

 

Meetings for the joy of being nothing.

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