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Dear Rob;

The group I moderate is almost that way too. So you are high and

supurbly knowledgeable about spirituality and I grovel in the dirt

with weird interpretations, but still our groups a similar.

Anyway I wont give up Exclusive because when I post something I read

it many times and continue my studies.

 

Love,

Alton

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Either way, I think we can safely say the group is moribund. :)

>

> -

> " Master of Change " <lostnfoundation>

> <Realization >

> Saturday, August 28, 2004 5:34 PM

> Ramana was wrong.. Re: Self Inquiry Theory

>

>

> > If no one responds to this offering, then shall we pronounce

this

> > group moribund?

> >

> > Love,

> > Alton

> >

> >

> > Realization , " Master of Change "

> > <lostnfoundation> wrote:

> > > A Ramana snip from Self Inquiry Theory..

> > >

> > > " Although the concept of 'I'-ness or 'I am'-ness is by usage

known

> > > as aham-vritti it is not really a vritti [modification] like

other

> > > vrittis of the mind. Because unlike the other vrittis which

have no

> > > essential interrelation, the aham-vritti is equally and

essentially

> > > related to each and every vritti of the mind. Without the aham-

> > vritti

> > > there can be no other vritti, but the aham-vritti can subsist

by

> > > itself

> > > without depending on any other vritti of the mind.

> > > The aham-vritti is therefore fundamentally different from

other

> > > vrittis. "

> > >

> > > The other vrittis may be related to each other. For example,

you

> > > were abused as a child many times with a lot of different

> > > experiences. The repressed memories are stored in the

> > subconscious

> > > and bubble up into consciousness as thoughts or mental

states.

> > One

> > > thought on that subject may therefore be connected to all

other

> > > thoughts that may arise from those earlier similar

experiences.

> > The

> > > charge and stress that ensues when one thought bubbles into

> > > consciousness is increased by all the other similar

experiences.

> > > Therefore those thoughts have an essential relationship.

> > >

> > > Another example. Someone calls you stupid for the first time.

You

> > > react somewhat but not significantly. Then people continue to

call

> > > you stupid and each time they do there is more stress

experienced.

> > > The aggregate of those thoughts compounds the degrees of the

> > > reactions.

> > > Now when someone calls you stupid you may get so angry that

you

> > > become violent. You then take up meditation and those thoughts

> > again

> > > surface into consciousness and because there are so many

similar

> > > incidents each thought has so much debilitating

interconnected

> > > charge. Again we must conclude that those thoughts have an

> > > essential relationship.

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > Alton

> >

> >

> >

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