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On the other hand, there's a maxim by Publilius Syrus:

 

" Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage. "

 

And:

 

" He knows not when to be silent who knows not

when to speak. "

 

I just noticed that quite a few of his maxims can be

read as having something to do with realization.

This is pretty amusing. For instance:

 

" The highest condition takes rise in the lowest. "

 

" He sleeps well who knows not that he sleeps ill. "

 

" Whatever you can lose, you should reckon of no

account. "

 

" It is sometimes expedient to forget who we are. "

 

" We may with advantage at times forget what we know. "

 

 

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" the wild bit " <singfree

<Realization >

Friday, November 12, 2004 9:10 AM

up she pops

 

>

> It seems to be a perfectly functioning list to me. The wise ones stay

> quiet and the egos do the talking.

>

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The wild one posted:

> > It seems to be a perfectly functioning list to me. The wise ones stay> quiet and the egos do the talking.>

 

Rob replied:

On the other hand, there's a maxim by Publilius Syrus:"Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage."And:"He knows not when to be silent who knows notwhen to speak."I just noticed that quite a few of his maxims can beread as having something to do with realization.This is pretty amusing. For instance:"The highest condition takes rise in the lowest.""He sleeps well who knows not that he sleeps ill.""Whatever you can lose, you should reckon of noaccount.""It is sometimes expedient to forget who we are.""We may with advantage at times forget what we know."KK: When we react to what's offered it's ego laced

Notice that condemnations are "I" thought based

Tread a path to the Godhead by gazing inside

Witness self interest the mind will subside

 

 

 

 

 

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There is something related to Realizations in all maxims.

The one who tries to reach the meaning of the words or taughts will receive

a meaning from his/her own self.

The one who let the whole moves him/her feels the spirit beyond all

realisation.

" it brought me to that place that is not a place. "

Medi

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up she pops

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is something related to Realizations in all maxims.The one who tries to reach the meaning of the words or taughts will receivea meaning from his/her own self.The one who let the whole moves him/her feels the spirit beyond allrealisation." it brought me to that place that is not a place."

Medi

 

Hi Medi:

Is that "place'" the same place that Ramana abided in? That is, no thoughts except when reading or when someone asks a question?

Thanks for any replies that come forthwith.

Love,

KK aka MT aka Alton

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> KK aka MT aka Alton

 

Hi Alton. So you're the infamous KK. I should have

known when I saw the implicit equivalence Nazis =

KKK = Republicans.

 

It didn't even cross my mind that it was you -- I must

be getting old. :)

 

-

Komo Kasha

REALIZATION ROB'S

Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM

re: Up she pops

 

 

 

 

 

up she pops

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is something related to Realizations in all maxims.The one who tries to reach the meaning of the words or taughts will receivea meaning from his/her own self.The one who let the whole moves him/her feels the spirit beyond allrealisation." it brought me to that place that is not a place."

Medi

 

Hi Medi:

Is that "place'" the same place that Ramana abided in? That is, no thoughts except when reading or when someone asks a question?

Thanks for any replies that come forthwith.

Love,

KK aka MT aka Alton..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........Email addresses: Post message: Realization Un: Realization- Our web address: http://www.realization.orgBy sending a message to this list, you are givingpermission to have it reproduced as a letter onhttp://www.realization.org................................................

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Dear Rob:

You are one of the few moderators that have either a great sense of

humor or are very tolerant of weird types.

 

I know that some of the other devotee types must get very irritated

as they must not think that God/dess has a sense of humor and would

be offended.

 

S/He sure does to allow this mess of a creation to continue to exit.

Those that dont have much of a sense of humor may be the ones that

think it is ok to kill people who have other beliefs about God then

they have.

 

Actually wont let me get rid of the MT one and I actually send

this from unbound like I send the other ones and it never appears as

Mark Train.

 

I think this group may wake up again soon.

 

Love,

KK aka MT aka Alton

 

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> > KK aka MT aka Alton

>

> Hi Alton. So you're the infamous KK. I should have

> known when I saw the implicit equivalence Nazis =

> KKK = Republicans.

>

> It didn't even cross my mind that it was you -- I must

> be getting old. :)

> -

> Komo Kasha

> REALIZATION ROB'S

> Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM

> re: Up she pops

>

>

> up she pops

>

>

>

>

> There is something related to Realizations in all maxims.

> The one who tries to reach the meaning of the words or

taughts will receive

> a meaning from his/her own self.

> The one who let the whole moves him/her feels the spirit

beyond all

> realisation.

> " it brought me to that place that is not a place. "

>

> Medi

>

> Hi Medi:

> Is that " place' " the same place that Ramana abided in?

That is, no thoughts except when reading or when someone asks a

question?

> Thanks for any replies that come forthwith.

> Love,

> KK aka MT aka Alton

>

>

>

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In a message dated 11/13/2004 12:10:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, editor writes:

I can easily understand whythe impulse to purposely provoke such people isa constant temptation for certain individuals who I will be kind enough not to name.

Aw shucks, my purpose for joining this list is revealed too soon...

Lisa

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> You are one of the few moderators that have either a great sense of

> humor or are very tolerant of weird types.

 

I'll offer a third possibility. I have a lousy sense of humor,

but at least I have one. The problem may be that some

people who are interested in this stuff have no sense of

humor at all. Therefore when we say something funny

(funny to us, anyway) it never occurs to them that we are

being whimsical or silly or humorous and they get offended.

They are so ..... earnest. I can easily understand why

the impulse to purposely provoke such people is

a constant temptation for certain individuals who I will be

kind enough not to name.

 

> > I think this group may wake up again soon.

 

You're scaring me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Love,

 

Rob

 

 

 

-

" Master of Change " <lostnfoundation

<Realization >

Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:35 AM

Re: Up she pops

 

 

>

>

> Dear Rob:

> You are one of the few moderators that have either a great sense of

> humor or are very tolerant of weird types.

>

> I know that some of the other devotee types must get very irritated

> as they must not think that God/dess has a sense of humor and would

> be offended.

>

> S/He sure does to allow this mess of a creation to continue to exit.

> Those that dont have much of a sense of humor may be the ones that

> think it is ok to kill people who have other beliefs about God then

> they have.

>

> Actually wont let me get rid of the MT one and I actually send

> this from unbound like I send the other ones and it never appears as

> Mark Train.

>

> I think this group may wake up again soon.

>

> Love,

> KK aka MT aka Alton

>

>

> Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> > > KK aka MT aka Alton

> >

> > Hi Alton. So you're the infamous KK. I should have

> > known when I saw the implicit equivalence Nazis =

> > KKK = Republicans.

> >

> > It didn't even cross my mind that it was you -- I must

> > be getting old. :)

> > -

> > Komo Kasha

> > REALIZATION ROB'S

> > Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM

> > re: Up she pops

> >

> >

> > up she pops

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > There is something related to Realizations in all maxims.

> > The one who tries to reach the meaning of the words or

> taughts will receive

> > a meaning from his/her own self.

> > The one who let the whole moves him/her feels the spirit

> beyond all

> > realisation.

> > " it brought me to that place that is not a place. "

> >

> > Medi

> >

> > Hi Medi:

> > Is that " place' " the same place that Ramana abided in?

> That is, no thoughts except when reading or when someone asks a

> question?

> > Thanks for any replies that come forthwith.

> > Love,

> > KK aka MT aka Alton

> >

> >

> >

..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........

>

> Email addresses:

> Post message: Realization

> Un: Realization-

> Our web address: http://www.realization.org

>

> By sending a message to this list, you are giving

> permission to have it reproduced as a letter on

> http://www.realization.org

> ................................................

>

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Realization , LSRandKCR@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/13/2004 12:10:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> editor@r... writes:

> I can easily understand why

> the impulse to purposely provoke such people is

> a constant temptation for certain individuals who I will be

> kind enough not to name.

> Aw shucks, my purpose for joining this list is revealed too

soon...

> Lisa

 

Hi Liza:

Rob was considering ending this group and It would be a shame if he

did with all the great links and stuff. So please REVEAL your Self

so that he does not pull the plug.

 

There may be that impulse to purposely provoke but whos impulse is

it and if someone is provoked shall they then be thankful for seeing

Self limiting attachments?

 

Everytime I am provoked I get a chance to release ENERGY KNOTS. How

about you or anyone else that reads this stuff here?

 

From sunny Hawaii,

Alton aka KK

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In a message dated 11/13/2004 1:38:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, lostnfoundation writes:

So please REVEAL your Self so that he does not pull the plug.

Gee, I'm not sure how much you care to see, and the guidelines for chatter have been thrown out and made fairly clear and I am sufficiently intimidated. I was looking for a group of people who have gone far enough in with their meditation and personal life experiences who are comfortable in sharing the interesting noticings when the boundaries of various levels of reality/awareness dissolve and new ones appear. I just wanted some company on my path as its getting weird, fun, and lighter, after many years of being horrifying and shattering. I am accepting of these new perceptions most of the time, and don't need to attach to it through to much analysis, but I was just wondering if I would now have the capacity to dream up a few buddies to snicker with over the wonder of it all...

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Realization , LSRandKCR@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/13/2004 1:38:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> lostnfoundation writes:

> So please REVEAL your Self

> so that he does not pull the plug.

> Gee, I'm not sure how much you care to see, and the guidelines for

chatter

> have been thrown out and made fairly clear and I am sufficiently

intimidated. I

 

 

They are only guildlines but not cast in stone. Go back and read the

messages during April 03 when there were over 800 posts and you will

see that Rob did not pay any attention to them.

Personal attacks are not allowed except when someone that Rob

idolizes does it, like Judy.

 

Love,

KK

 

 

 

 

 

was looking for a group of people who have gone far enough in with

their

> meditation and personal life experiences who are comfortable in

sharing the

> interesting noticings when the boundaries of various levels of

reality/awareness

> dissolve and new ones appear. I just wanted some company on my

path as its

> getting weird, fun, and lighter, after many years of being

horrifying and

> shattering. I am accepting of these new perceptions most of the

time, and don't need

> to attach to it through to much analysis, but I was just wondering

if I would

> now have the capacity to dream up a few buddies to snicker with

over the

> wonder of it all...

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Hi Lisa,

 

> ...the guidelines for chatter have been thrown out

> and made fairly clear and I am sufficiently intimidated.

 

I'm sorry to see that something was said here that made

you feel intimidated. If I contributed to that, please

accept my apologizes. There are no rules or guidelines

here except that personal attacks are not allowed.

 

> I just wanted some company on my path as its getting

> weird, fun, and lighter, after many years of being horrifying

> and shattering.

 

That sounds wonderful.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

 

 

 

-

LSRandKCR

Realization

Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:22 PM

Re: Re: Up she pops

 

 

In a message dated 11/13/2004 1:38:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, lostnfoundation writes:

So please REVEAL your Self so that he does not pull the plug.

Gee, I'm not sure how much you care to see, and the guidelines for chatter have been thrown out and made fairly clear and I am sufficiently intimidated. I was looking for a group of people who have gone far enough in with their meditation and personal life experiences who are comfortable in sharing the interesting noticings when the boundaries of various levels of reality/awareness dissolve and new ones appear. I just wanted some company on my path as its getting weird, fun, and lighter, after many years of being horrifying and shattering. I am accepting of these new perceptions most of the time, and don't need to attach to it through to much analysis, but I was just wondering if I would now have the capacity to dream up a few buddies to snicker with over the wonder of it all...

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