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December 17, 2004

Hi Alton Slater/KomoKasha, (Alton in the name of a town near where I live - Hampshire. UK) You write:

** Hi Janet:

If you dont mind me jumping in because I have many names.

The Komo Kasha one is going to be my name again as soon as inheritance issues are in the past.

Feel free to jump!

So Komo Kasha is your favourite of several names? Do you want to sound Japanese/exotic? What is wrong with your original name?No judgment being passed here. Just curious.

As you may know, in the early theatre the characters wore masks, rather than make-up, and the cast list was called the 'dramatis personae' - persona being the word for mask. The personality, then, is the 'mask' behind which the Oneness hides from Itself. Isn't having more than one name rather like wearing a mask on top of a mask? And there's no one there anyway!

**What anyone is doing is like every other events in life. It is just happening according to the Universal so far unknown laws of cause and effect.

You are right. It just all happens. It is as it is.

**your abiding in the teachings of Tony Parsons are that too.

Yes. Except that he doesn't set himself up as a teacher, because there was the realization that there was no one there. It is the same thing as one of your recent quotes:

**because the experiencer was finished: there was nobody to experience that death at all

No one has the experience of Awakening, because Awakening is the dropping away of the experiencer.

What is happening with you seems to involve a lot of effort, taking meditation to extremes. It is as it is, of course. With 'me' it is the opposite. There is nothing to do, save allowing everything to be as it is. Your efforting brought to mind one of Nisargadatta's sayings

"Unless you make tremendous efforts, you will not be convinced that effort will take you nowhere. The self is so self-confident that unless it is totally discouraged it will not give up. Mere verbal conviction is not enough. Hard facts alone can show the absolute nothingness of the self-image. "

.... though interestingly, you quote him to support your stance when you say

**All I want to do is train because of my core belief of "with training you can do anything as per Nisargadatta.

I am reminded of a story of the Buddha. On his travels he came across a monk who proudly reported that after 25 years of effort he could now walk on water. The Buddha was unimpressed, "For a penny you could have taken the ferry."

Tony Parsons maintains that meditators who Awaken, only do so after they have given up!

Love, Light and Blessings,

Janet

"Janet", why would you think we are "hiding" behind names? By your use of the word "abiding" I sense that you could be on the Dharma path of Buddhism? I am a Buddhist [as is everyone, they just don't know it yet - lololol ].

Anyway, I am planning to answer some of the questions your own question addresses. That is a great quote from Tony Parsons, thanks.

Janet, one other thing, the post you reference was not something I wrote, but was from Huang Po, there is a full citation at the end of the quote so that anyone interested in further reading of the Zen teachings of Huang Po may find the same volume from which I extracted that quote. I wish others would provide bibliographical citations for quotes they post so that it would be clearer whose thoughts they are posting and so that one could buy the whole book if they were inspired to do so. [Hint-hint, KK-san re: Mystique series....]

I firmly believe that one should go to the original source of particular thoughts/ideas... many inspirational things some contemporary writers say/write are sometimes paraphrasing if not actually repeating words from ancient wisdom....

You know my earthly name from above... I am many names, you may even call me "Janet" if you like, also.... but you doesn't has to call me "Mr." [heheheh]

Well, it will be great to read more about yours and "anamo'sabidings."

Unless you make tremendous efforts, you will not be convinced that effort will take you nowhere. The self is so self-confident that unless it is totally discouraged it will not give up. Mere verbal conviction is not enough. Hard facts alone can show the absolute nothingness of the self-image. (523)

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