Amazing grace

[Guest guest]

Dearest Brother Rob:

You are a person with double standards, but aren't we all like that.

Some of you arguments dont hold water and are not worth addressing.

 

Now tell us about your practice and come out of the CLOSET? Please

dont tell me that you can be aware of AWARENESS.

Metta,

Alton aka KK

 

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> Hi Alton,

>

> > If my 5 year old granddaughter happens to

> > come to this site where posts can be read

> > without joining, it will be good for her

> > to read Judi's carnal posts, right. I mean

> > those are not personal attacks in

> > your book?

>

> There were quite a few personal attacks in

> the last day or two. For example:

>

> . I guess your mommy and daddy found out

> . you were on the computer and told you to

> . do your homework.

>

> and:

>

> . Yeah, it means you're an egotistical

> . son of a bitch!

>

> Those comments come from two different

> people, by the way.

>

> Remarks like these are against the rules

> here. I'd appreciate it if people would

> refrain from attacking each other.

>

> As for your granddaughter, if her parents

> want to protect her from words like

> " fuck " , they will have to keep her away from

> this forum. There are no rules here about

> profanity.

>

> > I still stand by my accusation that you have

> > favorites and she is one of yours or else why

> > are you not calling her on it or have you?

>

> I've told Judi in the past that some of her

> comments violated the forum rules, and if I

> recall correctly, she stopped posting here

> for a long time.

>

> On the other hand, not all of Judi's

> offensive comments are really offensive. Very

> often they are double-entendres that usually

> go over the head of the person she's addressing.

> In many cases, it's funny when the person

> feels insulted because it's a sign that he or

> she missed the point.

>

> In my opinion, Judi has first-hand knowledge of

> the kind that most people here would like to

> have. That makes her comments more interesting

> to me than those of many other people. If that

> means she's one of my favorites, then fine,

> she's one of my favorites.

>

> > Alton does not free anybody, the Universe

> > however does and what

> > comes through Alton is that.

> > I see you have other ideas about that?

>

> Yeah, but I'd have to violate the forum rules

> to express them here.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

> Realization , " Komo Kasha "

> <lostnfoundation> wrote:

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> If it's any consolation, Kathryn, I usually

> feel the same way.

>

> Realization , " destiny " <destiny@o...> wrote:

> > Thank-you

> >

> > You have made me realize what a waste of time this forum is.

> >

 

Then why dont you end it like you considered doing?

Love,

KK

[Guest guest]

Hi Derek,

 

> > YOU are an example of the kinds of people

> you say you want to keep off your site...

 

In the four years that I've moderated this

site, I've never said that I want to keep

anyone off it. Nobody has ever been banned

or excluded from this forum.

 

> I, of coures, am going to leave your site.

> I don't want pornography coming into my

> computer and what you have to say seems

> like " spam " to me.

 

When I said that " spam " is not allowed here,

I was talking about commercial spam

(advertisements) sent by spam bots.

 

> You have completely missed the " core "

> of all these posts the last few days...

 

What is the core that I missed? Could

you summarize it for me so that I get

a second chance to recognize it?

 

> Look, it is your ball, you can take

> it home with you and " masterbate " all

> you want when the game does not go in

> your favor.

 

I don't understand this. How did I

take the ball home? How am I masturbating?

I really am not following you here.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

 

 

Realization , Derek Taulman

<satbhaktanha> wrote:

> Well, Rob,

> You have completely missed the " core " of all these posts the last

few days...

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Derek,

 

Well, since you won't help me by summarizing

the " core " that I overlooked, I just scrolled

up and read through the whole tiresome thing

again to see what I missed.

 

It was a cruel and laborious task, but hey,

I'm the moderator, and I can't shirk my

duties.

 

I focused on the " sick fuck " remark since

it seems to have made a bigger impression on

most people than it did on me.

 

And I noticed the following series of three

messages. I think, really, this must be the

core? Am I right? I'll reproduce them here

because they were hard to read originally

due to the formatting.

 

Basically, what happened was, you asked

Judi why she called you a sick fuck, and she

answered you. She actually explained in a

perfectly polite and straightforward way.

Her answer is pretty interesting, it seems

to me.

 

Derek wrote:

 

.. Namaste Judi,

.. Will you tell me then why you felt it

.. necessary to call me " a sick fuck "

.. when you do not even know me?

 

Judi answered:

 

.. If you don't already suspect

.. that about yourself, there's nothing

.. more I can say.

..

.. In other words, if you don't yet

.. " suspect " yourself the " culprit " ,

.. anything I can say to you,

.. you will only take as an " offense " .

 

and then Judi added:

 

.. You respond to flattery.

.. You adore being told that you are:

..

.. Pure Love

.. Ultimate Goodness

.. Perfection

.. God

.. Everything Wonderful and Worhtwhile

..

.. You flock to Masters

.. That reassure you

.. you're not the debased little asshole

.. you secretly know yourself to be.

..

.. Guess what?

..

.. The You they are talking about

.. isn't you.

 

Am I right? Was that the core?

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization , Derek Taulman

<satbhaktanha> wrote:

> namaste, Rob

>

> ask judi

>

> D.

[Guest guest]

P.S. Oops, sorry, I just realized that

the message I described as " pefectly polite

and straightforward " ends by calling " you "

a " debased little asshole. " I really didn't

notice how that sounds -- I'm probably reading

this in a different way than you are -- I

apologize.

 

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> Hi Derek,

>

> Well, since you won't help me by summarizing

> the " core " that I overlooked, I just scrolled

> up and read through the whole tiresome thing

> again to see what I missed.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alton,

 

> You are a person with double standards,

> but aren't we all like that.

 

Um, if you're going to accuse me of

something, wouldn't it be polite to tell

me exactly what I supposedly did?

 

> Some of you arguments dont hold water

> and are not worth addressing.

 

They don't hold water, and they

aren't worth adressing, but they are

worth mentioning. Interesting.

 

> Now tell us about your practice and

> come out of the CLOSET?

 

What closet? I've described my practice

many times in various groups over

the years. I would give you an update now

except I don't have time. About to hop

in a car and drive to Boston.

 

> Please don't tell me that you can be

> aware of AWARENESS.

 

Okay.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization , " Komo Kasha "

<lostnfoundation> wrote:

>

> Dearest Brother Rob:

> You are a person with double standards, but aren't we all like

that.

>

[Guest guest]

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> P.S. Oops, sorry, I just realized that

> the message I described as " pefectly polite

> and straightforward " ends by calling " you "

> a " debased little asshole. " I really didn't

> notice how that sounds -- I'm probably reading

> this in a different way than you are -- I

> apologize.

>

 

********

That was from Wayne Liquorman's book, " No Way " .

 

Judi

[Guest guest]

Well my still karmic friend Rob:

 

If you believe you handled yourself with loving fairness, who am I

to say otherwise. And if you dont care about handling yourself with

loving fairness, great going.

 

I do however advise parents to monitor their teenagers surfing this

site as long as Judi is posting her gross attack epithets. That is

if they believe their kids may get the wrong idea about spirituality

 

Aloha,

KK

[Guest guest]

Hi Alton,

 

> And if you dont care about handling yourself

> with loving fairness, great going.

 

What did I do that's unfair?

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

 

Komo Kasha [lostnfoundation]

Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:19 AM

Realization

Fwd: Re: Amazing grace

 

 

 

Well my still karmic friend Rob:

 

If you believe you handled yourself with loving fairness, who am I

to say otherwise. And if you dont care about handling yourself with

loving fairness, great going.

 

I do however advise parents to monitor their teenagers surfing this

site as long as Judi is posting her gross attack epithets. That is

if they believe their kids may get the wrong idea about spirituality

 

Aloha,

KK

[Guest guest]

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

> Hi Alton,

>

> > And if you dont care about handling yourself

> > with loving fairness, great going.

>

> What did I do that's unfair?

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

 

Hi Rob:

Defending Judi's gross personal attacking posts.

 

I will send the rest by email.

 

Wishing you well,

KK

[Guest guest]

Hi Alton,

 

>> Rob: What did I do that's unfair?

 

> Alton: Defending Judi's gross personal

> attacking posts.

 

In my role as moderator, I treated

Judi and Derek in precisely the same

way.

 

In message 3714, I quoted an offensive

remark from each of them as examples of

personal attacks and asked them both to

stop. They did. (Actually, I think they

had already stopped by then, but I

performed this bit of moderation because

you had asked me to.)

 

Treating everybody the same way seems

pretty fair to me.

 

Merry Christmas!

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization , " Komo Kasha "

<lostnfoundation> wrote:

>

> Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...>

wrote:

> > Hi Alton,

> >

> > > And if you dont care about handling yourself

> > > with loving fairness, great going.

> >

> > What did I do that's unfair?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rob

> >

>

> Hi Rob:

> Defending Judi's gross personal attacking posts.

>

> I will send the rest by email.

>

> Wishing you well,

> KK