Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Robust love, indeed. The sort of love that only gets built when people really go into the dirt with each other, until they come out clean, maybe, if they're really lucky one day and have been humbled enough by the fight to receive the gift of it. Most people have constructed their whole lives to avoid the dirt, so I thank you for this past exchange. It rocked to be finally reading something here that is not bluenumb with the cold, but real and alive and hot. This is the real stuff. Vulnerable stuff. We're all in kindergarten until we find ourselves out on the street, daddyless and mommyless. In some way or other. We all want to be understood, we're all looking for replacement daddies and mommies to understand us properly this time, and GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, FINALLY. This stuff can be light with us, it's all just a big joke really, but we can't demand the lightness or pretend the lightness is there when it just isn't. And when we can accept the heaviness in ourselves, ping, it's light again. That's how I've found it, anyway. I know nothing about anyone who reads this list. Nothing. I can only speak from what's real and true for me, and liberate understanding in my own backyard first. Deliberate provocation comes from a deep desire to get into the dirt, and come clean, but provocation is really inappropriate if you're lucky enough to get an understanding of it. It shuts people in. And that's fundamentally irresponsible behaviour. I understand this because I've done it, and I have seen it. If there's dirt (and there IS dirt, for all of us), and you're interested in reality and freedom, there's no way out but through the dirt. Here come the angels with the dirty faces. I feel like a boogie. Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Realization , " the wild bit " <singfree@s...> wrote: > > > Robust love, indeed. The sort of love that only gets built when people > really go into the dirt with each other, until they come out clean, > maybe, if they're really lucky one day and have been humbled enough by > the fight to receive the gift of it. Most people have constructed their > whole lives to avoid the dirt, so I thank you for this past exchange. > > It rocked to be finally reading something here that is not bluenumb with > the cold, but real and alive and hot. This is the real stuff. Vulnerable > stuff. > > We're all in kindergarten until we find ourselves out on the street, > daddyless and mommyless. In some way or other. We all want to be > understood, we're all looking for replacement daddies and mommies to > understand us properly this time, and GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, FINALLY. > This stuff can be light with us, it's all just a big joke really, but we > can't demand the lightness or pretend the lightness is there when it > just isn't. And when we can accept the heaviness in ourselves, ping, > it's light again. That's how I've found it, anyway. > > I know nothing about anyone who reads this list. Nothing. I can only > speak from what's real and true for me, and liberate understanding in my > own backyard first. Deliberate provocation comes from a deep desire to > get into the dirt, and come clean, but provocation is really > inappropriate if you're lucky enough to get an understanding of it. It > shuts people in. And that's fundamentally irresponsible behaviour. I > understand this because I've done it, and I have seen it. > > If there's dirt (and there IS dirt, for all of us), and you're > interested in reality and freedom, there's no way out but through the > dirt. > > Here come the angels with the dirty faces. I feel like a boogie. > > > Lucy ************** Everyone is " looking for a dance " , nothing new there, it's not in an " other " that you will find the satisfaction that you seek, but in your own *ugly* back yard and the seeing into THAT. Now off with you! I assure you, Jesus didn't go into the desert alone by hisself for 40 days looking for a boogie. Ychuck. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Realization , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@c...> wrote: > > Realization , " the wild bit " <singfree@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > Robust love, indeed. The sort of love that only gets built when > people > > really go into the dirt with each other, until they come out clean, > > maybe, if they're really lucky one day and have been humbled enough > by > > the fight to receive the gift of it. Most people have constructed > their > > whole lives to avoid the dirt, so I thank you for this past > exchange. > > > > It rocked to be finally reading something here that is not bluenumb > with > > the cold, but real and alive and hot. This is the real stuff. > Vulnerable > > stuff. > > > > We're all in kindergarten until we find ourselves out on the street, > > daddyless and mommyless. In some way or other. We all want to be > > understood, we're all looking for replacement daddies and mommies to > > understand us properly this time, and GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, FINALLY. > > This stuff can be light with us, it's all just a big joke really, > but we > > can't demand the lightness or pretend the lightness is there when it > > just isn't. And when we can accept the heaviness in ourselves, ping, > > it's light again. That's how I've found it, anyway. > > > > I know nothing about anyone who reads this list. Nothing. I can only > > speak from what's real and true for me, and liberate understanding > in my > > own backyard first. Deliberate provocation comes from a deep desire > to > > get into the dirt, and come clean, but provocation is really > > inappropriate if you're lucky enough to get an understanding of it. > It > > shuts people in. And that's fundamentally irresponsible behaviour. I > > understand this because I've done it, and I have seen it. > > > > If there's dirt (and there IS dirt, for all of us), and you're > > interested in reality and freedom, there's no way out but through > the > > dirt. > > > > Here come the angels with the dirty faces. I feel like a boogie. > > > > > > Lucy > > ************** > Everyone is " looking for a dance " , nothing new there, it's not in > an " other " that you will find the satisfaction that you seek, but in > your own *ugly* back yard and the seeing into THAT. > > Now off with you! > > I assure you, Jesus didn't go into the desert alone by hisself for 40 > days looking for a boogie. Ychuck. > > Judi ************ And don't come back until you're done, cause we don't want to hear anymore from " you " , surely the world is full of enough bullshit suffering as it is. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 > > ************** > > Everyone is " looking for a dance " , nothing new there, it's not in > > an " other " that you will find the satisfaction that you seek, but > in > > your own *ugly* back yard and the seeing into THAT. > > > > Now off with you! > > > > I assure you, Jesus didn't go into the desert alone by hisself for > 40 > > days looking for a boogie. Ychuck. > > > > Judi > > ************ > And don't come back until you're done, cause we don't want to hear > anymore from " you " , surely the world is full of enough bullshit > suffering as it is. > > Judi *********** Now I'm off, you know where to find ME - find yourself! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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