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Namaste Judi,

Will you tell me then why you felt it necessary to call me "a sick fuck" when you do not even know me?

Rob, is that part of your 4noble truths?

I think KK-KK is right, Rob you seem to "spin" Buddhism to be whatever supports what you do.

 

No wonder people left your site...

 

D.Note: forwarded message attached.

 

 

I assume we're all adults here Alton, but if my four letter words offend

you,

I am sorry, they are not the point.

 

Judi

 

 

 

>

>

> Hi Rob:

> If my 5 year old granddaughter happens to come to this site where

> posts can be read without joining, it will be good for her to read

> Judi's carnal posts, right. I mean those are not personal attacks in

> your book?

> I still stand by my accusation that you have favorites and she is

> one of yours or else why are you not calling her on it or have you?

>

> I have been notified by another moderator who everyone claims is

> Realized that the Indian members are leaving his group in F words

> terms. So maybe I jumped to conclusions here. I apologize to any

> Indian or other members that are not offended by my posts.

> Those that are offended can delete them before reading or go off

> emails and the digest and skip them also.

>

> Alton does not free anybody, the Universe however does and what

> comes through Alton is that.

>

> I see you have other ideas about that?

>

> Love,

> KK

>

>

>

> Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Alton,

>>

>> > So you were chagrined losing so many

>> > members with my Questions for

>> > God/dess huh?

>>

>> Yes, and my feeling hasn't changed.

>>

>> > Well your Indian members are going to have to

>> > experience their aversions and maybe get free.

>>

>> Lumping Indians into a category that

>> requires special help is offensive.

>>

>> The belief that Alton has the power to free

>> people by annoying them is absurd.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Rob

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Realization , " Komo Kasha "

>> <lostnfoundation> wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Rob:

>> > So you were chagrined losing so many members with my Questions

> for

>> > God/dess huh? Well your Indian members are going to have to

>> > experience their aversions and maybe get free.

>> > Love,

>> > KK

>> >

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Namaste destiny,

 

Destiny, don't be too hasty, the "exchange" you refer to was directed towards me... "I" wasn't offended... what IS there to be offended?

 

I found it a bit humorous that the rapid responses that my replies evoked apparently were offending Judi, right Judi?

 

Which is why it was such a "dog chasing tail" exchange.... lolololo:) hahahaha!!!

 

If you listen real hard, you will "hear the sound of one hand clapping"...

 

"Can't we all just get along!"

 

tat tvam asi....

 

DipamkaraNote: forwarded message attached.

 

 

Thank-you

 

You have made me realize what a waste of time this forum is.

 

 

 

-

" judirhodes " <judirhodes

<Realization >

Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:13 PM

Re: Amazing grace

 

 

 

Whatever you say Kathryn.

 

Be well,

Judi

 

 

 

 

Realization , " destiny " <destiny@o...> wrote:

> Hi Judi,

> Being 'adults here' doesn't mean a person appreciates being called

names in a forum.

> <<sick fuck>>

> I was surprised your messages even passed the moderator. I listen

to this language on a daily basis in my line of work. For fear of

becoming jaded I was relieved to be offended by you.

> Thank-you

>

> -

> " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

> <Realization >

> Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:19 AM

> Re: Re: Amazing grace

>

>

> I assume we're all adults here Alton, but if my four letter words

offend

> you,

> I am sorry, they are not the point.

>

> Judi

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Rob:

> > If my 5 year old granddaughter happens to come to this site where

> > posts can be read without joining, it will be good for her to read

> > Judi's carnal posts, right. I mean those are not personal attacks

in

> > your book?

> > I still stand by my accusation that you have favorites and she is

> > one of yours or else why are you not calling her on it or have

you?

> >

> > I have been notified by another moderator who everyone claims is

> > Realized that the Indian members are leaving his group in F words

> > terms. So maybe I jumped to conclusions here. I apologize to any

> > Indian or other members that are not offended by my posts.

> > Those that are offended can delete them before reading or go off

> > emails and the digest and skip them also.

> >

> > Alton does not free anybody, the Universe however does and what

> > comes through Alton is that.

> >

> > I see you have other ideas about that?

> >

> > Love,

> > KK

> >

> >

> >

> > Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Hi Alton,

> >>

> >> > So you were chagrined losing so many

> >> > members with my Questions for

> >> > God/dess huh?

> >>

> >> Yes, and my feeling hasn't changed.

> >>

> >> > Well your Indian members are going to have to

> >> > experience their aversions and maybe get free.

> >>

> >> Lumping Indians into a category that

> >> requires special help is offensive.

> >>

> >> The belief that Alton has the power to free

> >> people by annoying them is absurd.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Rob

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Realization , " Komo Kasha "

> >> <lostnfoundation> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Dear Rob:

> >> > So you were chagrined losing so many members with my Questions

> > for

> >> > God/dess huh? Well your Indian members are going to have to

> >> > experience their aversions and maybe get free.

> >> > Love,

> >> > KK

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........

> >

> > Email addresses:

> > Post message: Realization

> > Un: Realization-

> > Our web address: http://www.realization.org

> >

> > By sending a message to this list, you are giving

> > permission to have it reproduced as a letter on

> > http://www.realization.org

> > ................................................

> >

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Hi Derek,

 

> Rob, is that part of your 4noble truths?

 

The Four Noble Truths are the idea that

suffering is caused by craving, and that

relief from this can be gained by a certain

kind of practice. This is pretty much what

Judi said in the sentences I quoted, except

that she advocated a kind of practice that

is not widely used in Buddhism, so far as

I know.

 

The fact that Judi called you a " sick fuck "

somewhere else doesn't change the meaning of

what she said in the sentences I quoted.

 

Buddhist commentaries on the Second Truth

often say that people try to hide from

their suffering. They try to avoid seeing

it. The psychobabble word is denial. I

think Judi is making more or less the same

point when she taunts people about their

refusal to see " their " ugliness.

 

> I think KK-KK is right, Rob you seem

> to " spin " Buddhism to be whatever supports

> what you do.

 

The only reason I've mentioned Buddhism here

recently was because you are interested in it,

and I thought it would make it easier to

make you see what Judi is saying to you. I'm

not talking about Buddhism to make a point

about Buddhism. I was using it as a point of

reference.

 

> No wonder people left your site...

 

People come and go all the time. A few weeks

ago there was a wave of departures caused by

some messages from Alton. There was no doubt

about their reasons because they wrote to me

and told me. (Alton and I have spoken about

this in private correspondence.)

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization , Derek Taulman

<satbhaktanha> wrote:

> Namaste Judi,

> Will you tell me then why you felt it necessary to call me " a sick

fuck " when you do not even know me?

> Rob, is that part of your 4noble truths?

> I think KK-KK is right, Rob you seem to " spin " Buddhism to be

whatever supports what you do.

>

> No wonder people left your site...

>

> D.

>

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Dearest Soul mate Rob:

Any private emails from me may be posted on this group, but you have

told me that I cant reveal stuff you said to me. Is that correct?

Love,

KK

 

Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> Hi Derek,

>

> > Rob, is that part of your 4noble truths?

>

> The Four Noble Truths are the idea that

> suffering is caused by craving, and that

> relief from this can be gained by a certain

> kind of practice. This is pretty much what

> Judi said in the sentences I quoted, except

> that she advocated a kind of practice that

> is not widely used in Buddhism, so far as

> I know.

>

> The fact that Judi called you a " sick fuck "

> somewhere else doesn't change the meaning of

> what she said in the sentences I quoted.

>

> Buddhist commentaries on the Second Truth

> often say that people try to hide from

> their suffering. They try to avoid seeing

> it. The psychobabble word is denial. I

> think Judi is making more or less the same

> point when she taunts people about their

> refusal to see " their " ugliness.

>

> > I think KK-KK is right, Rob you seem

> > to " spin " Buddhism to be whatever supports

> > what you do.

>

> The only reason I've mentioned Buddhism here

> recently was because you are interested in it,

> and I thought it would make it easier to

> make you see what Judi is saying to you. I'm

> not talking about Buddhism to make a point

> about Buddhism. I was using it as a point of

> reference.

>

> > No wonder people left your site...

>

> People come and go all the time. A few weeks

> ago there was a wave of departures caused by

> some messages from Alton. There was no doubt

> about their reasons because they wrote to me

> and told me. (Alton and I have spoken about

> this in private correspondence.)

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

> Realization , Derek Taulman

> <satbhaktanha> wrote:

> > Namaste Judi,

> > Will you tell me then why you felt it necessary to call me " a

sick

> fuck " when you do not even know me?

> > Rob, is that part of your 4noble truths?

> > I think KK-KK is right, Rob you seem to " spin " Buddhism to be

> whatever supports what you do.

> >

> > No wonder people left your site...

> >

> > D.

> >

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Hi Alton,

 

If you write something, you may publish

it anywhere including this forum.

 

If somebody sends you a letter, you

may not publish it here or any public

place unless you have permission from the

author. This applies to letters from

everyone, not just from me. This is the

law, and it's common courtesy, and it's

common sense.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization , " Komo Kasha "

<lostnfoundation> wrote:

>

> Dearest Soul mate Rob:

> Any private emails from me may be posted on this group, but you

have

> told me that I cant reveal stuff you said to me. Is that correct?

> Love,

> KK

>

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Realization , " Rob Sacks " <editor@r...> wrote:

>

> Hi Alton,

>

> If you write something, you may publish

> it anywhere including this forum.

>

> If somebody sends you a letter, you

> may not publish it here or any public

> place unless you have permission from the

> author. This applies to letters from

> everyone, not just from me. This is the

> law, and it's common courtesy, and it's

> common sense.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

 

That is obvious. However if there is some knowledge that is not

personal I may paraphrase and offer it, with out revealing the

source. Wisdom can and will be shared. No one can make claim to it.

 

Love,

Me

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