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*Dear Alton,

This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

rather best

suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

you are talking about.

 

Regards

 

Acharya Vasudev *

 

-------------------------

 

Alton Slater wrote:

 

Dear Rob: I used to be hard of those who don't do meditation until I

realized that they just cant take

the stress when heavy duty stuff bubbles up into the conscious from that

which has been hidden from their view. Scorpio types or those

individuals with lots of Scorpio placings in the astrological charts

don't have a guardian at the gate of the unconscious so they are used to

thoughts and emotions that

arise from those thoughts, which sometimes are so heavy duty that if one

acted them out they would be incarcerated as criminals for many years.

So that is why so many folks that used to meditate don't do it anymore

and chat about enlightenment on the Net instead of continuing the quest

for enough attention power and mindfulness to fry the discursive mind.

 

It is similar in Macrobiotics. I went through a horrendous cleansing

that many cant tolerate when they start eating brown rice. I was told

that there would be a discharge period that removes toxins and impurities

so I was willing to experience the stress in the body, but at first I

could not eat brown rice for more that 2 days in a row. It took a whole

year of discharge.

 

So please try to understand why so many on the Net chat instead of doing

Self Inquiry etc.

 

I was supposed to go visit our friend who is incarcerated but that has

been canceled.

Please excuse the mistakes in the last post. We were going to leave and

I did not proof read it.

 

Aloha,

Alton

 

 

Dear Alton,

 

> ...but you know that those who cant make the effort...

 

In my opinion, there are no such people. If you want to

make the effort, you can. The only reason why people think

they can't is because they don't want to. Saying " can't " is

a way of being dishonest with ourselves.

 

> ...and they seem to have fun on the groups.

 

That's fine. Fun is good. The only problem is when people

imagine that talking about realization is going to get them

anywhere.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization

[Realization ] On Behalf Of Alton

Slater

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:47 PM

Realization

Re: Following the rules I hope..

corrected

 

 

IMHO that is the wisest observation you have make so far,

to my knowledge, but you know that those who cant make the

effort were not given what it takes to make that effort and

they seem to have fun on the groups. I do too but I know it

is counter productive to what I am working for.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Acharya Vasudev:

Thanks much for appearing and your offering about Scorpios, but you know that

eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and western says I am a Sagittarius, so how

can we make both systems compatible?

 

Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two houses because I am also

a Leo Aquarius intercept I would not have the intensity needed to continue my

Sadhana. I did not mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio, in fact

having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great asset. That sign digs deep

holes and not a lot of little one.

 

What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart? Time of birth, city,

date and year.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Love,

Alton

*Dear Alton,

This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

rather best

suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

you are talking about.

 

Regards

 

*

 

-------------------------

 

Alton Slater wrote:

 

Dear Rob: I used to be hard of those who don't do meditation until I

realized that they just cant take

the stress when heavy duty stuff bubbles up into the conscious from that

which has been hidden from their view. Scorpio types or those

individuals with lots of Scorpio placings in the astrological charts

don't have a guardian at the gate of the unconscious so they are used to

thoughts and emotions that

arise from those thoughts, which sometimes are so heavy duty that if one

acted them out they would be incarcerated as criminals for many years.

So that is why so many folks that used to meditate don't do it anymore

and chat about enlightenment on the Net instead of continuing the quest

for enough attention power and mindfulness to fry the discursive mind.

 

It is similar in Macrobiotics. I went through a horrendous cleansing

that many cant tolerate when they start eating brown rice. I was told

that there would be a discharge period that removes toxins and impurities

so I was willing to experience the stress in the body, but at first I

could not eat brown rice for more that 2 days in a row. It took a whole

year of discharge.

 

So please try to understand why so many on the Net chat instead of doing

Self Inquiry etc.

 

I was supposed to go visit our friend who is incarcerated but that has

been canceled.

Please excuse the mistakes in the last post. We were going to leave and

I did not proof read it.

 

Aloha,

Alton

 

 

Dear Alton,

 

> ...but you know that those who cant make the effort...

 

In my opinion, there are no such people. If you want to

make the effort, you can. The only reason why people think

they can't is because they don't want to. Saying " can't " is

a way of being dishonest with ourselves.

 

> ...and they seem to have fun on the groups.

 

That's fine. Fun is good. The only problem is when people

imagine that talking about realization is going to get them

anywhere.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

Realization

[Realization ] On Behalf Of Alton

Slater

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:47 PM

Realization

Re: Following the rules I hope..

corrected

 

 

IMHO that is the wisest observation you have make so far,

to my knowledge, but you know that those who cant make the

effort were not given what it takes to make that effort and

they seem to have fun on the groups. I do too but I know it

is counter productive to what I am working for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Alton,

 

> Can you send me Sri Ramana's data

> so I can have his chart?

> Time of birth, city, date and year.

 

According to the standard biography it was December 30, 1879

at 1 am in Tiruchuzhi.

 

Nowadays Tiruchuzhi is usually spelled Tiruchuli. It's 26

miles south of Madurai in Tamil Nadu at 9 degrees 33' N, 78

degrees 12' E.

 

Google Earth knows where Tiruchuli is (with search function)

but it doesn't show enough detail to see the village.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

 

 

>

> Realization

> [Realization ] On Behalf Of Alton

Slater

> Tuesday, August 09, 2005 4:00 AM

> Realization

> Re: About Scorpions

>

> Dear Acharya Vasudev:

> Thanks much for appearing and your offering about

Scorpios,

> but you know that eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and

 

> western says I am a Sagittarius, so how can we make both

> systems compatible?

>

> Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two

> houses because I am also a Leo Aquarius intercept I would

not

> have the intensity needed to continue my Sadhana. I did

not

> mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio, in fact

> having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great

asset.

> That sign digs deep holes and not a lot of little one.

>

> What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

> Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart?

 

> Time of birth, city, date and year.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Love,

> Alton

> *Dear Alton,

> This is my first post to this group though I am a member

of

> this group

> for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion

among

> all of you.

> In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as

 

> you portrayed

> them.You perhaps have little knowledge about

scorpions.Scorpions are

> rather best

> suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even

> Ramana Maharishi

> had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in

Scorpio,and

> interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus)

too.Swami

> Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna

> Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

> etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very

> prominently placed in

> their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited

for

> the sadhana

> you are talking about.

>

> Regards

>

> *

>

> -------------------------

>

> Alton Slater wrote:

>

> Dear Rob: I used to be hard of those who don't do

meditation until I

> realized that they just cant take

> the stress when heavy duty stuff bubbles up into the

> conscious from that

> which has been hidden from their view. Scorpio types or

those

> individuals with lots of Scorpio placings in the

astrological charts

> don't have a guardian at the gate of the unconscious so

> they are used to

> thoughts and emotions that

> arise from those thoughts, which sometimes are so heavy

> duty that if one

> acted them out they would be incarcerated as criminals

for

> many years.

> So that is why so many folks that used to meditate don't

do

> it anymore

> and chat about enlightenment on the Net instead of

> continuing the quest

> for enough attention power and mindfulness to fry the

> discursive mind.

>

> It is similar in Macrobiotics. I went through a

horrendous cleansing

> that many cant tolerate when they start eating brown

rice.

> I was told

> that there would be a discharge period that removes

toxins

> and impurities

> so I was willing to experience the stress in the body,

but

> at first I

> could not eat brown rice for more that 2 days in a row.

It

> took a whole

> year of discharge.

>

> So please try to understand why so many on the Net chat

> instead of doing

> Self Inquiry etc.

>

> I was supposed to go visit our friend who is

incarcerated

> but that has

> been canceled.

> Please excuse the mistakes in the last post. We were

going

> to leave and

> I did not proof read it.

>

> Aloha,

> Alton

>

>

> Dear Alton,

>

> > ...but you know that those who cant make the effort...

>

> In my opinion, there are no such people. If you want to

> make the effort, you can. The only reason why people

think

> they can't is because they don't want to. Saying

" can't " is

> a way of being dishonest with ourselves.

>

> > ...and they seem to have fun on the groups.

>

> That's fine. Fun is good. The only problem is when

people

> imagine that talking about realization is going to get

them

> anywhere.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

>

> Realization

> [Realization ] On Behalf Of Alton

> Slater

> Monday, August 08, 2005 2:47 PM

> Realization

> Re: Following the rules I hope..

> corrected

>

>

> IMHO that is the wisest observation you have make so

far,

> to my knowledge, but you know that those who cant make

the

> effort were not given what it takes to make that effort

and

> they seem to have fun on the groups. I do too but I know

it

> is counter productive to what I am working for.

 

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Dear Alton,

It is not the question what sign one possesses according to one system

or other.I was referring the qualities of Scorpio as general.

How we derive the qualities of any sign.?

We derive the qualities of any sign from these angles..

We analyze

what tattva any sign possesses i.e. Earthy,airy,watery or Fiery ?

Whether the sign is Fixed,mutable or changeable ?

Whether the sign odd or even ?

Whether the sign sattvic,rajasic or tamasic ?

etc. etc. etc.

 

And most of these angles both systems are quite compatible.Do you agree

or not ?

The debate over tropical and sidereal zodiac is altogether a different

thing and qualities of Scorpio are not affected with that at all.

 

I am not surely a scorpion in any way.According to Vedic System I have

Virgo rising with Gemini moon sign.

These are the birth details of Maharishi Ramana.

Born on 30th December 1879 at 1.00 AM(LMT) in Madurai India.He has Libra

rising with Gemini moon sign.

 

Regards

 

Acharya Vasudev

www.acharyavasudev.com

-

 

 

Alton Slater wrote:

 

>Dear Acharya Vasudev:

>Thanks much for appearing and your offering about Scorpios, but you know that

eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and western says I am a Sagittarius, so how

can we make both systems compatible?

>

>Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two houses because I am

also a Leo Aquarius intercept I would not have the intensity needed to continue

my Sadhana. I did not mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio, in fact

having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great asset. That sign digs deep

holes and not a lot of little one.

>

>What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

>Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart? Time of birth, city,

date and year.

>

>Thanks in advance.

>

>Love,

>Alton

> *Dear Alton,

> This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

> for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

> In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

> them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

> rather best

> suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

> had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

> interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

> Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

> etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

> their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

> you are talking about.

>

> Regards

>

> *

>

> -------------------------

>

> Alton Slater wrote:

>

> Dear Rob: I used to be hard of those who don't do meditation until I

> realized that they just cant take

> the stress when heavy duty stuff bubbles up into the conscious from that

> which has been hidden from their view. Scorpio types or those

> individuals with lots of Scorpio placings in the astrological charts

> don't have a guardian at the gate of the unconscious so they are used to

> thoughts and emotions that

> arise from those thoughts, which sometimes are so heavy duty that if one

> acted them out they would be incarcerated as criminals for many years.

> So that is why so many folks that used to meditate don't do it anymore

> and chat about enlightenment on the Net instead of continuing the quest

> for enough attention power and mindfulness to fry the discursive mind.

>

> It is similar in Macrobiotics. I went through a horrendous cleansing

> that many cant tolerate when they start eating brown rice. I was told

> that there would be a discharge period that removes toxins and impurities

> so I was willing to experience the stress in the body, but at first I

> could not eat brown rice for more that 2 days in a row. It took a whole

> year of discharge.

>

> So please try to understand why so many on the Net chat instead of doing

> Self Inquiry etc.

>

> I was supposed to go visit our friend who is incarcerated but that has

> been canceled.

> Please excuse the mistakes in the last post. We were going to leave and

> I did not proof read it.

>

> Aloha,

> Alton

>

>

> Dear Alton,

>

> > ...but you know that those who cant make the effort...

>

> In my opinion, there are no such people. If you want to

> make the effort, you can. The only reason why people think

> they can't is because they don't want to. Saying " can't " is

> a way of being dishonest with ourselves.

>

> > ...and they seem to have fun on the groups.

>

> That's fine. Fun is good. The only problem is when people

> imagine that talking about realization is going to get them

> anywhere.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob

>

>

> Realization

> [Realization ] On Behalf Of Alton

> Slater

> Monday, August 08, 2005 2:47 PM

> Realization

> Re: Following the rules I hope..

> corrected

>

>

> IMHO that is the wisest observation you have make so far,

> to my knowledge, but you know that those who cant make the

> effort were not given what it takes to make that effort and

> they seem to have fun on the groups. I do too but I know it

> is counter productive to what I am working for.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Acharya Vasudev:

I also had a sidereal reading and it seems to be

the same as the Tropical one. However I have been told that the sidereal is more

accurate for transits.

Some Indian astologer years ago was doing lifetime transits for $100. I wish I

did it then. Now I lost contact with the one who knew him. I know that some

individuals dont want to know what is going to happen, but I do. That way I can

center myself better. Of course we remember what Kabir said dont we. " Let the

events come as they come "

 

Your site in interesting and If my finances improve with my market speculation I

will have you do a reading for me.

 

Om Shanti,

Alton

 

 

Dear Alton,

It is not the question what sign one possesses according to one system

or other.I was referring the qualities of Scorpio as general.

How we derive the qualities of any sign.?

We derive the qualities of any sign from these angles..

We analyze

what tattva any sign possesses i.e. Earthy,airy,watery or Fiery ?

Whether the sign is Fixed,mutable or changeable ?

Whether the sign odd or even ?

Whether the sign sattvic,rajasic or tamasic ?

etc. etc. etc.

 

And most of these angles both systems are quite compatible.Do you agree

or not ?

The debate over tropical and sidereal zodiac is altogether a different

thing and qualities of Scorpio are not affected with that at all.

 

I am not surely a scorpion in any way.According to Vedic System I have

Virgo rising with Gemini moon sign.

These are the birth details of Maharishi Ramana.

Born on 30th December 1879 at 1.00 AM(LMT) in Madurai India.He has Libra

rising with Gemini moon sign.

 

Regards

 

Acharya Vasudev

www.acharyavasudev.com

-

 

 

Alton Slater wrote:

 

>Dear Acharya Vasudev:

>Thanks much for appearing and your offering about Scorpios, but you know that

eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and western says I am a Sagittarius, so how

can we make both systems compatible?

>

>Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two houses because I am

also a Leo Aquarius intercept I would not have the intensity needed to continue

my Sadhana. I did not mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio, in fact

having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great asset. That sign digs deep

holes and not a lot of little one.

>

>What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

>Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart? Time of birth,

city, date and year.

>

>Thanks in advance.

>

>Love,

>Alton

> *Dear Alton,

> This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

> for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

> In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

> them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

> rather best

> suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

> had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

> interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

> Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

> etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

> their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

> you are talking about.

>

> Regards

>

 

 

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Dear Alton,

I don't know whether the moderator will allow us to talk astrology

here,still I would like to

add few points.What you said is quite right that sidereal is more

accurate but it's not for transits rather for

timing the results.Transits are a different thing.Transits means the

movements of planets through different zodiac signs.We usually

see them through different angles.In western astrology it is called

directions.In eastern astrology we have a different kind of dasha systems

combining with transits.There are as many as 42 kind of dasha systems

and we in india usually follow only the one of them namely

Vimshottari dasha system.I suppose by saying transits you wanted to

convey the same thing.

 

Now come to the second points.You are right ,some individuals don't want

to know what is going to happen with them and in that sense they

may be averse to the whole idea of astrology.Unfortunately astrology is

used for telling material things only as in this way it is more popularized

and provides bread and butter to many people who practice this ancient

vidya.Very few people know that Esoteric astrology is a great tool for

helping those who are seeking answers within.That's why it is called the

eye of vedas.I have spent quite time studying this and found this a great

help for me.For removing delusions and providing inner light astrology

is the best thing happened to mankind.

 

Regards

 

Acharya Vasudev

www.acharyavasudev.com

---

 

Alton Slater wrote:

 

>Dear Acharya Vasudev:

>I also had a sidereal reading and it seems to be

>the same as the Tropical one. However I have been told that the sidereal is

more accurate for transits.

>Some Indian astologer years ago was doing lifetime transits for $100. I wish I

did it then. Now I lost contact with the one who knew him. I know that some

individuals dont want to know what is going to happen, but I do. That way I can

center myself better. Of course we remember what Kabir said dont we. " Let the

events come as they come "

>

>Your site in interesting and If my finances improve with my market speculation

I will have you do a reading for me.

>

>Om Shanti,

>Alton

>

>

> Dear Alton,

> It is not the question what sign one possesses according to one system

> or other.I was referring the qualities of Scorpio as general.

> How we derive the qualities of any sign.?

> We derive the qualities of any sign from these angles..

> We analyze

> what tattva any sign possesses i.e. Earthy,airy,watery or Fiery ?

> Whether the sign is Fixed,mutable or changeable ?

> Whether the sign odd or even ?

> Whether the sign sattvic,rajasic or tamasic ?

> etc. etc. etc.

>

> And most of these angles both systems are quite compatible.Do you agree

> or not ?

> The debate over tropical and sidereal zodiac is altogether a different

> thing and qualities of Scorpio are not affected with that at all.

>

> I am not surely a scorpion in any way.According to Vedic System I have

> Virgo rising with Gemini moon sign.

> These are the birth details of Maharishi Ramana.

> Born on 30th December 1879 at 1.00 AM(LMT) in Madurai India.He has Libra

> rising with Gemini moon sign.

>

> Regards

>

> Acharya Vasudev

> www.acharyavasudev.com

> -

>

>

> Alton Slater wrote:

>

> >Dear Acharya Vasudev:

> >Thanks much for appearing and your offering about Scorpios, but you know

that eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and western says I am a Sagittarius,

so how can we make both systems compatible?

> >

> >Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two houses because I am

also a Leo Aquarius intercept I would not have the intensity needed to continue

my Sadhana. I did not mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio, in fact

having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great asset. That sign digs deep

holes and not a lot of little one.

> >

> >What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

> >Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart? Time of birth,

city, date and year.

> >

> >Thanks in advance.

> >

> >Love,

> >Alton

> > *Dear Alton,

> > This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

> > for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

> > In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

> > them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

> > rather best

> > suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

> > had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

> > interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

> > Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

> > etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

> > their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

> > you are talking about.

> >

> > Regards

> >

>

>

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Dear Vasudev:

Yes, about what I mean by transits.

Yes, also about my chart helping me to understand myself. Everything seems to

have come out right. My thoughts and personality traits are a reflection of my

chart, which is a reflection of the chain of events that made Alton into what he

is identified with as far as acting out his destiny role.

 

Thanks for the detailed explanation. It was my wife that was a terrific

astrologer, but gave it up because I did not want to do it with her.

 

Loving kindness blessing,

Alton

 

 

 

 

Dear Alton,

I don't know whether the moderator will allow us to talk astrology

here,still I would like to

add few points.What you said is quite right that sidereal is more

accurate but it's not for transits rather for

timing the results.Transits are a different thing.Transits means the

movements of planets through different zodiac signs.We usually

see them through different angles.In western astrology it is called

directions.In eastern astrology we have a different kind of dasha systems

combining with transits.There are as many as 42 kind of dasha systems

and we in india usually follow only the one of them namely

Vimshottari dasha system.I suppose by saying transits you wanted to

convey the same thing.

 

Now come to the second points.You are right ,some individuals don't want

to know what is going to happen with them and in that sense they

may be averse to the whole idea of astrology.Unfortunately astrology is

used for telling material things only as in this way it is more popularized

and provides bread and butter to many people who practice this ancient

vidya.Very few people know that Esoteric astrology is a great tool for

helping those who are seeking answers within.That's why it is called the

eye of vedas.I have spent quite time studying this and found this a great

help for me.For removing delusions and providing inner light astrology

is the best thing happened to mankind.

 

Regards

 

Acharya Vasudev

www.acharyavasudev.com

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Alton Slater wrote:

 

>Dear Acharya Vasudev:

>I also had a sidereal reading and it seems to be

>the same as the Tropical one. However I have been told that the sidereal is

more accurate for transits.

>Some Indian astologer years ago was doing lifetime transits for $100. I wish

I did it then. Now I lost contact with the one who knew him. I know that some

individuals dont want to know what is going to happen, but I do. That way I can

center myself better. Of course we remember what Kabir said dont we. " Let the

events come as they come "

>

>Your site in interesting and If my finances improve with my market

speculation I will have you do a reading for me.

>

>Om Shanti,

>Alton

>

>

> Dear Alton,

> It is not the question what sign one possesses according to one system

> or other.I was referring the qualities of Scorpio as general.

> How we derive the qualities of any sign.?

> We derive the qualities of any sign from these angles..

> We analyze

> what tattva any sign possesses i.e. Earthy,airy,watery or Fiery ?

> Whether the sign is Fixed,mutable or changeable ?

> Whether the sign odd or even ?

> Whether the sign sattvic,rajasic or tamasic ?

> etc. etc. etc.

>

> And most of these angles both systems are quite compatible.Do you agree

> or not ?

> The debate over tropical and sidereal zodiac is altogether a different

> thing and qualities of Scorpio are not affected with that at all.

>

> I am not surely a scorpion in any way.According to Vedic System I have

> Virgo rising with Gemini moon sign.

> These are the birth details of Maharishi Ramana.

> Born on 30th December 1879 at 1.00 AM(LMT) in Madurai India.He has Libra

> rising with Gemini moon sign.

>

> Regards

>

> Acharya Vasudev

> www.acharyavasudev.com

> -

>

>

> Alton Slater wrote:

>

> >Dear Acharya Vasudev:

> >Thanks much for appearing and your offering about Scorpios, but you know

that eastern astrology calls me a Scorpio and western says I am a Sagittarius,

so how can we make both systems compatible?

> >

> >Without my Scorpio energy of the rising sign and in two houses because I

am also a Leo Aquarius intercept I would not have the intensity needed to

continue my Sadhana. I did not mean anything negative about the sign of Scorpio,

in fact having no gate that blocks the unconscious is a great asset. That sign

digs deep holes and not a lot of little one.

> >

> >What sign are you? Rising moon etc?

> >Can you send me Sri Ramana's data so I can have his chart? Time of birth,

city, date and year.

> >

> >Thanks in advance.

> >

> >Love,

> >Alton

> > *Dear Alton,

> > This is my first post to this group though I am a member of this group

> > for a long time.I do immensely enjoy this discussion among all of you.

> > In my humble opinion it is wrong to portray scorpions as you portrayed

> > them.You perhaps have little knowledge about scorpions.Scorpions are

> > rather best

> > suited for intense sadhana and hath yoga practices.Even Ramana Maharishi

> > had two planets namely Venus and Mercury placed in Scorpio,and

> > interestingly one of them was his lagna lord (Venus) too.Swami

> > Chinmayananda,Satya Sai Baba,Ramakrishna Paramahansa,Gopinath Kaviraj

> > etc. many of the realized souls had Scorpio very prominently placed in

> > their horoscopes.In my opinion Scorpio is best suited for the sadhana

> > you are talking about.

> >

> > Regards

> >

>

 

 

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