Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I was very lucky. At the time, I thought that taking LSD should be mandatory, not illegal. Compulsory. Like education. But it is not that simple. I was lucky. The friend I did it with had taken LSD numerous times before he took it with me. Needless to say, he was blown away. He had no idea where my karma was going to shlep him then Wham! He went from being a pot smoking suburban teenager to Buddha, Moses and Jesus rolled into one! He was actually contemplating suicide. How could he return to the world of sleep-walkers? In the end he chose not to kill himself (he knew he couldn't die b/c he wasn't the body). Instead he chose to try and forget....as fast as he could what he had experienced. I saw him last year after thirty years. He didn't. rhyndrati oentara <oentaraningsih wrote: You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 DO NOT TAKE LSD: Although I did it a dozen times or so back in the '70s. That, along with mescaline comprised a very important aspect of my education, including spiritual and psychological insights that may have saved my life. At the very least it was a giant leap forward in my personal evolution as this vortex of cosmic energy called " me. " So why not take it? It is too unpredictable. While it generally hurled me unbound into heavenly bliss, there came the time, my final trip, when it took me to hell. One visit there was more than enough. The horror!!! I began to study and experiment and learn and enjoy everything and anything to learn about my own identity. About truth. What is this center of consciousness seemingly separate from all the other centers of consciousness? The wisdom of the East became my new highway to heaven. Bumpy at times but I still get glimpses of heaven, while hell seems a laughable impossibility. And I see we share that consciousness and any separation is imaginary. Like the quirky pills I once took, separation contains the seed of hell. It is as the great Masters have said, our true nature is happiness. So do not take that pill with its chance of hell. And do not imagine yourself separate. Just find out who you really are and enjoy your true nature: happiness... Orva, the ex-hippy - rhyndrati oentara<oentaraningsih realization <realization > Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:46 PM re:red pill You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I have to agree. It's paradoxical but...a drug-induced realization, however remarkable, is still fleeting. It quickly becomes a memory, a thought that the ego wants to conjure up again and again. The key is to make the ego vanish altogether by practicing self-enquiry as taught by Ramana. The question " Who am I? " automatically causes the ego to vanish. It is really quite magical. It may seem like nothing happened b/c you are still THERE/HERE but the kicker is realizing just WHO you are or put another way WHAT you are. To Abide in That (your feeling of self) which remains, as often as you can, is Ramana's repetitive 54-year instruction. " The rest " ,he says, " will be taken care of. " Leave the drugs to the poor souls who will never hear the name of Ramana Maharshi in their lifetime. Consider yourself very lucky to have even heard the name of the great sage. Also, always listen to the advice of an ex-hippie, when advice is offered. The choice between the Red Pill or the Blue pill is bogus. It is a matter of asking the simple question. Or not. The mind IS the matrix. Watch it vanish instantly with " Who am I? " orva schrock <otsclu wrote: DO NOT TAKE LSD: Although I did it a dozen times or so back in the '70s. That, along with mescaline comprised a very important aspect of my education, including spiritual and psychological insights that may have saved my life. At the very least it was a giant leap forward in my personal evolution as this vortex of cosmic energy called " me. " So why not take it? It is too unpredictable. While it generally hurled me unbound into heavenly bliss, there came the time, my final trip, when it took me to hell. One visit there was more than enough. The horror!!! I began to study and experiment and learn and enjoy everything and anything to learn about my own identity. About truth. What is this center of consciousness seemingly separate from all the other centers of consciousness? The wisdom of the East became my new highway to heaven. Bumpy at times but I still get glimpses of heaven, while hell seems a laughable impossibility. And I see we share that consciousness and any separation is imaginary. Like the quirky pills I once took, separation contains the seed of hell. It is as the great Masters have said, our true nature is happiness. So do not take that pill with its chance of hell. And do not imagine yourself separate. Just find out who you really are and enjoy your true nature: happiness... Orva, the ex-hippy - rhyndrati oentara<oentaraningsih realization <realization > Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:46 PM re:red pill You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I must say, right on, my brother. Personally, after all these years of searching high and low, hither and yon, I feel I have found my home in Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi. It is surely as He always insisted; to solve your problems, it is only necessary to find out Who has the problem. - Cliff Shack<cliff_shack Realization <Realization > Friday, December 28, 2007 12:18 AM Re: re:red pill I have to agree. It's paradoxical but...a drug-induced realization, however remarkable, is still fleeting. It quickly becomes a memory, a thought that the ego wants to conjure up again and again. The key is to make the ego vanish altogether by practicing self-enquiry as taught by Ramana. The question " Who am I? " automatically causes the ego to vanish. It is really quite magical. It may seem like nothing happened b/c you are still THERE/HERE but the kicker is realizing just WHO you are or put another way WHAT you are. To Abide in That (your feeling of self) which remains, as often as you can, is Ramana's repetitive 54-year instruction. " The rest " ,he says, " will be taken care of. " Leave the drugs to the poor souls who will never hear the name of Ramana Maharshi in their lifetime. Consider yourself very lucky to have even heard the name of the great sage. Also, always listen to the advice of an ex-hippie, when advice is offered. The choice between the Red Pill or the Blue pill is bogus. It is a matter of asking the simple question. Or not. The mind IS the matrix Watch it vanish instantly with " Who am I? " orva schrock <otsclu<otsclu%40msn.com>> wrote: DO NOT TAKE LSD: Although I did it a dozen times or so back in the '70s. That, along with mescaline comprised a very important aspect of my education, including spiritual and psychological insights that may have saved my life. At the very least it was a giant leap forward in my personal evolution as this vortex of cosmic energy called " me. " So why not take it? It is too unpredictable. While it generally hurled me unbound into heavenly bliss, there came the time, my final trip, when it took me to hell. One visit there was more than enough. The horror!!! I began to study and experiment and learn and enjoy everything and anything to learn about my own identity. About truth. What is this center of consciousness seemingly separate from all the other centers of consciousness? The wisdom of the East became my new highway to heaven. Bumpy at times but I still get glimpses of heaven, while hell seems a laughable impossibility. And I see we share that consciousness and any separation is imaginary. Like the quirky pills I once took, separation contains the seed of hell. It is as the great Masters have said, our true nature is happiness. So do not take that pill with its chance of hell. And do not imagine yourself separate. Just find out who you really are and enjoy your true nature: happiness... Orva, the ex-hippy - rhyndrati oentara<oentaraningsih<oentaraningsih%40>> To: realization <realization%40><realiza\ tion <realization%40>> Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:46 PM re:red pill You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Indeed. orva schrock <otsclu wrote: I must say, right on, my brother. Personally, after all these years of searching high and low, hither and yon, I feel I have found my home in Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi. It is surely as He always insisted; to solve your problems, it is only necessary to find out Who has the problem. - Cliff Shack<cliff_shack Realization <Realization > Friday, December 28, 2007 12:18 AM Re: re:red pill I have to agree. It's paradoxical but...a drug-induced realization, however remarkable, is still fleeting. It quickly becomes a memory, a thought that the ego wants to conjure up again and again. The key is to make the ego vanish altogether by practicing self-enquiry as taught by Ramana. The question " Who am I? " automatically causes the ego to vanish. It is really quite magical. It may seem like nothing happened b/c you are still THERE/HERE but the kicker is realizing just WHO you are or put another way WHAT you are. To Abide in That (your feeling of self) which remains, as often as you can, is Ramana's repetitive 54-year instruction. " The rest " ,he says, " will be taken care of. " Leave the drugs to the poor souls who will never hear the name of Ramana Maharshi in their lifetime. Consider yourself very lucky to have even heard the name of the great sage. Also, always listen to the advice of an ex-hippie, when advice is offered. The choice between the Red Pill or the Blue pill is bogus. It is a matter of asking the simple question. Or not. The mind IS the matrix Watch it vanish instantly with " Who am I? " orva schrock <otsclu<otsclu%40msn.com>> wrote: DO NOT TAKE LSD: Although I did it a dozen times or so back in the '70s. That, along with mescaline comprised a very important aspect of my education, including spiritual and psychological insights that may have saved my life. At the very least it was a giant leap forward in my personal evolution as this vortex of cosmic energy called " me. " So why not take it? It is too unpredictable. While it generally hurled me unbound into heavenly bliss, there came the time, my final trip, when it took me to hell. One visit there was more than enough. The horror!!! I began to study and experiment and learn and enjoy everything and anything to learn about my own identity. About truth. What is this center of consciousness seemingly separate from all the other centers of consciousness? The wisdom of the East became my new highway to heaven. Bumpy at times but I still get glimpses of heaven, while hell seems a laughable impossibility. And I see we share that consciousness and any separation is imaginary. Like the quirky pills I once took, separation contains the seed of hell. It is as the great Masters have said, our true nature is happiness. So do not take that pill with its chance of hell. And do not imagine yourself separate. Just find out who you really are and enjoy your true nature: happiness... Orva, the ex-hippy - rhyndrati oentara<oentaraningsih<oentaraningsih%40>> To: realization <realization%40><realiza\ tion <realization%40>> Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:46 PM re:red pill You are very lucky Cliff, you are one in a zillion !! People work very hard to experience satori (mini samadhi), still it doesnt arrive yet.But i dont like to try your way. Last year i got surgery and doctor gave morphine pasca operation. Maybe i was overdozed, my head spin heavily for two days,even just to open the eyes i felt pain and heavy. I got vomit oftenly, never felt like that before...Really bad experience with LSD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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