Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Hello John, Welcome to our group. I had seen most of Moyer's series the Power of Myth with Campbell but I was not aware that Nisargadatta was mentioned. Thank you for pointing that out. Back then I had not even heard of Advaita Vedanta (Non-dualism school of Vedanta). At the time my link to spirituality was by reading Yunus Emre, a 13-14th Century Turkish Sufi poet. The reason I decided to start this list was among all the Advaita teachers I've read I found Nisargadatta to have the most powerful writing style. His student Ramesh Balsekar gives his understanding in a book called Pointers From Nisargadatta Maharaj, which provides a more focused (or somewhat narrow?) interpretation though you may find it very helpful. It's also been my intention to be a part of a Satsang group in Boston area where we'd read a chapter from " I am That, " followed by a short discussion. Hope to hear from you again. Please feel free to contribute to the list. Thanks so much, Hur --- John Jablonski <JohnJablonski wrote: > I'm very happy to see this eGroup. I have been > reading Nisargadatta > for some years now, and at times I feel like I > almost get the message. > > I first came across a reference to " I Am That " in > some reading I was > doing about Joeseph Campbell. Seven years ago my > introduction to > spirituality of any sort was through the book " The > Power of Myth " by > Bill Moyers about conversations he had with > Campbell. > > Hur, It is clear from your latest post that you have > a grasp of this > stuff. This is exciting. I look forward to > discussing this stuff > with you and the rest of the group. > > I am 37 years old and live in Somerville > Massachusetts. > > -- John > > Photos - Share your holiday photos online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Hello, Welcome. Nice to see the group growing... on both a local and I guess on an international level. I don't speak spanish, but I can certainly see how the teachings of Nisargadatta can be meaningfull in any cultural setting. I feel especially gratefull for the wonderfull work of translation done for " I Am That " . I have found the " Nectar of Immortality " to be a little bit rougher, but still very powerfull when read with an appreciation for the state of Nisargadatta's health at the time. Anyway, I don't mean to sound like a critic... actually trying to express praise and thanks. I'm looking forward to participating in this discussion. -- John Nisargadatta , " Stephen Levinson " <smLevinson@r...> wrote: > Hi... > > I'm new to the group and wanted to say Hi... I just found out > about this list and Nisargadatta was always my ideal!! I also live in > Somerville and am anxious to have contact with others interested in > truly going all the way home. > > My hope is to share experiences and become supportive of one > another. I'm also looking for the right teacher... I've been around > one for a while and Im beginning to feel it's not the best for me ... > > I look forward to sharing with others. > > With Love, Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Nisargadatta, " mcyberia " <mcyberia> wrote: > Escape From Reality > > > Mr. Nisargadatta maharaj is person who decided reality was not from > him. On the contrary, Reality was his primary interest. > He found quiet meditation full of inaction very satisfying. > But since he is not exempt from survival and has to find some means > for the same, he writes a book a gathers a group of followers in the > process. They will keep him well fed and give him his acceptance. If > he was sooo self-content, why does he have to take the trouble to > write a book?? > Nisargadatta never wrote any books. People came and he spoke. Some recorded his talks and decided to publish them so others who were moved to discover their true identity might benefit. > The question is, if everyone is meditating and is stuck at " I am " , > who is going to run the world? Who is going to produce the food, the > technology that is used to print copies of " I am that " ? It is this > same technology that is being used to host the discussion group now. > > People like Nisargadatta are just parasitically living off society. > > Boy, science has always had a tough time! These spiritual people are > the ones who can be held responsible for the decadence most of the > world is in right now. Decadence due to ignorance. > > But Ignorance is Bliss, isn't it Mr. Nisargadatta?! No, ignorance is suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Nisargadatta, " mcyberia " <mcyberia> wrote: > Escape From Reality did you research the subject before you wrote this piece? i'm not talking about your spiritual (subjective) views but there are so many factual (objective) errors in your message. i run the site www.nisargadatta.net but i didn't include any bio info on nisargadatta on that site. here is a site that does: http://realization.org/page/topics/nisargadatta.htm hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Well, I am sorry, but I did not research Nisargadatta specifically. I have no inclination to either. They are a dime a dozen. But I have made these conclusions looking at other such spiritual gurus, and I have done some research at the macro level taking a few micro cases(social psychological and, a little, genetic). I was born and spent 22 years of my life in India. This is my 23rd, and I am in America now. What I see in spirituality is a retrograde way to human decadence...when the West has shown that reason and science is the way. --- Hur Guler <hurg wrote: > Nisargadatta, " mcyberia " <mcyberia> > wrote: > > Escape From Reality > > did you research the subject before you wrote this > piece? i'm not > talking about your spiritual (subjective) views but > there are so many > factual (objective) errors in your message. > > i run the site www.nisargadatta.net but i didn't > include any bio info > on nisargadatta on that site. here is a site that > does: > > http://realization.org/page/topics/nisargadatta.htm > > hur > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Keep in mind that your philosophy about science is not itself scientific. What you are declaring is your Religious Fervor about Science. Fine. There's room in this world for Southern Baptists, those who embrace Science as a religion, etc. As we all have noted, there are some who believe their own religion is the Only True Religion. Apparently you count yourself amongst them. And don't take this as a put-down. It's beautiful that you've got religion; it's beautiful that you've got passion. Some people don't have that. So what are you doing here, trying to get some converts? -Bill Milind B [mcyberia] Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:56 PM Nisargadatta Re: Re: HI Well, I am sorry, but I did not research Nisargadatta specifically. I have no inclination to either. They are a dime a dozen. But I have made these conclusions looking at other such spiritual gurus, and I have done some research at the macro level taking a few micro cases(social psychological and, a little, genetic). I was born and spent 22 years of my life in India. This is my 23rd, and I am in America now. What I see in spirituality is a retrograde way to human decadence...when the West has shown that reason and science is the way. --- Hur Guler <hurg wrote: > Nisargadatta, " mcyberia " <mcyberia> > wrote: > > Escape From Reality > > did you research the subject before you wrote this > piece? i'm not > talking about your spiritual (subjective) views but > there are so many > factual (objective) errors in your message. > > i run the site www.nisargadatta.net but i didn't > include any bio info > on nisargadatta on that site. here is a site that > does: > > http://realization.org/page/topics/nisargadatta.htm > > hur > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Science does not give you a huge list of do's and dont's. Or an incoherent, irrational brain dump for people to swallow whole. The keyword is collectivism. Objective reasoning is currently the best known and also most directly verified way man can attain knowledge and thereby comfortably advance his breed (thru technology). You might call the pursuit of knowledge by reason a religion if you will, but believe it or not, it is the most practical. This is hard fact ground in reality, therefore I wouldn't put it across as " This is what I think " . We could see all other religious societies providing an inhumane existence to its subjects and where it was a matter of chance whether you lived to see another day and it was a class heirarchy that defined how you would live your life and pre-destination that determined what you did next. The hallmark: Subjugation to nature. But Science has put man over nature for the most part and is constantly improving its hold on reality. Science has changed that through technology and capitalism. Everything else is just parasitic and obviously serves no coherent purpose. Spiritual people always tend to mix up reason and emotion and are highly subjective in their opinions. Society will suffer in this primitive fashion till every individual does not realize the value of the objective pursuit of knowledge over blind acceptance. --- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote: > Keep in mind that your philosophy about science > is not itself scientific. > > What you are declaring is your Religious Fervor > about Science. > > Fine. There's room in this world for Southern > Baptists, those who embrace Science as a religion, > etc. > > As we all have noted, there are some who believe > their own religion is the Only True Religion. > Apparently you count yourself amongst them. > > And don't take this as a put-down. It's beautiful > that you've got religion; it's beautiful that > you've got passion. Some people don't have that. > > So what are you doing here, trying to get some > converts? > > -Bill > > > > Milind B [mcyberia] > Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:56 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Re: HI > > > Well, I am sorry, but I did not research > Nisargadatta > specifically. I have no inclination to either. They > are a dime a dozen. But I have made these > conclusions > looking at other such spiritual gurus, and I have > done > some research at the macro level taking a few micro > cases(social psychological and, a little, genetic). > I > was born and spent 22 years of my life in India. > This > is my 23rd, and I am in America now. > > What I see in spirituality is a retrograde way to > human decadence...when the West has shown that > reason > and science is the way. > > > --- Hur Guler <hurg wrote: > > Nisargadatta, " mcyberia " > <mcyberia> > > wrote: > > > Escape From Reality > > > > did you research the subject before you wrote this > > piece? i'm not > > talking about your spiritual (subjective) views > but > > there are so many > > factual (objective) errors in your message. > > > > i run the site www.nisargadatta.net but i didn't > > include any bio info > > on nisargadatta on that site. here is a site that > > does: > > > > > http://realization.org/page/topics/nisargadatta.htm > > > > hur > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 hi, i'm mirela how are you, guys? wish you well, mirela - <Nisargadatta > <Nisargadatta > Monday, January 06, 2003 4:12 PM Digest Number 747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 enchanted mirella ! U welcome Here I AM THAT :-) so resting urge ! what about You ? Namste ! Phil - " Athanor " <athanor <Nisargadatta > Monday, January 06, 2003 5:09 PM Re: hi hi, i'm mirela how are you, guys? wish you well, mirela - <Nisargadatta > <Nisargadatta > Monday, January 06, 2003 4:12 PM Digest Number 747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 everything is personal!! mirela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Maybe. But " nothing " is impersonal. Where you been lately? I haven't heard from you for the longest time? Love to you, Pete --- Athanor <athanor wrote: > everything is personal!! > mirela > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " reptiliouss " <Reptilious@i...> wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to this message group. > Just wanted to introduce myself, and give greetings to all. > About how many people are on this list? > > ~peace~ Not two. But not two could be 590+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " reptiliouss " <Reptilious@i...> wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to this message group. > Just wanted to introduce myself, and give greetings to all. > About how many people are on this list? > > ~peace~ Hi My guess would be that there is only One. :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 --- reptiliouss <Reptilious wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to this message group. > Just wanted to introduce myself, and give greetings > to all. > About how many people are on this list? > > ~peace~ > > Hi Im new here too just a few days greetings Love jacob > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hello everyone, This is my experience, please allow me to share : I've been a seeker for quite some years, but never know what or where the truth is.I went to many gurus in local area, reading many books from World Master.Chanting, fasting,yoga,i have been there, but seems like im going nowhere.All knowledge i have learn become philosophy and burden. They brings only dizzy, doubt and confusion in me.This i do for more than 3 years for making effort to get in touch with myself. I give up all searching, just live a simple way according the instinct.If i feel hungry, i eat. Then fasting become effortless and i can also break it anytime.Sit silently, doing nothing, just watching the breath come and go, suddenly thoughts subside.By and by i get acquainted with this body & thoughts.I know blissfulness & misery from that point also.The Master was right when saying misery is there and unconsciously we cling to it and make it as habit.Im in total agreement when he says all we need is just preparing the soil,the ground, then the guest will come on its own.That is by non doing action, total letting go and acceptance...then suddenly we are at ease and relax,it is like going home. Still i didnt know what truth is,but it doesnt really matter now.In deep gratitude that life could be so calm & blessing.May everyone is happy & fulfilled... Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Thanks for sharing, indeed, seeing is vastly superior to looking... - rhyndrati oentara<oentaraningsih realization <realization > Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:22 AM hi Hello everyone, This is my experience, please allow me to share : I've been a seeker for quite some years, but never know what or where the truth is.I went to many gurus in local area, reading many books from World Master.Chanting, fasting,yoga,i have been there, but seems like im going nowhere.All knowledge i have learn become philosophy and burden. They brings only dizzy, doubt and confusion in me.This i do for more than 3 years for making effort to get in touch with myself. I give up all searching, just live a simple way according the instinct.If i feel hungry, i eat. Then fasting become effortless and i can also break it anytime.Sit silently, doing nothing, just watching the breath come and go, suddenly thoughts subside.By and by i get acquainted with this body & thoughts.I know blissfulness & misery from that point also.The Master was right when saying misery is there and unconsciously we cling to it and make it as habit.Im in total agreement when he says all we need is just preparing the soil,the ground, then the guest will come on its own.That is by non doing action, total letting go and acceptance...then suddenly we are at ease and relax,it is like going home. Still i didnt know what truth is,but it doesnt really matter now.In deep gratitude that life could be so calm & blessing.May everyone is happy & fulfilled... Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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