Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Thanks to " Dharma Troll " at alt.philosophy.zen forum, I found this interesting account of a Buddhist teacher's experience with Maharaj: Buddhist teacher Jack Kornfield describes his encounter with Nisargadatta Maharaj in " The Eightfold Path for the Householder, " a wonderful set of talks found online at: http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mb62/errata/8path.htm There's something in us, in our nature, which compels us to discover. I remember a very powerful moment with the old guru who I studied with, Nisargadatta Maharaj, who taught the way of Nisarga Yoga. " Nisarga " means natural. The basic translation of his name was " Mr. Natural " . He was this 80-year old cigarette-smoking man. He had a little cigarette stand. He was kind of a combination like Krishnamurti and Fritz Perls. He would put you on the hot seat when you came in and ask you about your spiritual life. One day we were in a room about this big. People were coming in and asking questions. Somebody came in and asked a question and was a little bit dissatisfied and left. And another person raised their hand and said, " Maharaj, what will happen to that person who came and asked that question and left? Is it all over for them in this life? They didn't stay here. You are a great guru, and they weren't interested, and they went home. " And he twinkled at that moment, he really lit up, and he said, " It's too late. Even the fact that they put their foot in this room, even if they hadn't asked the question, means that somewhere in there there's a seed of really knowing who we are and what this life is about. Not what you were taught in elementary school or what's on TV or the newspapers, but a deep seed of knowing our true nature, that wants to discover; it's like coming home. The fact that he just walked in the room means that that seed has started to sprout. And no matter if he tries to forget it and goes back and gets lost, sooner or later that will manifest in awakening. ....I'll read you a passage from Nisargadatta Maharaj, the old bidi wallah who I studied with in Bombay; wonderful old teacher. He sold little Indian cigarettes on the street corner, and he was fully enlightened somehow at the same time. He had these classes. He died a couple of years ago. He was a wonderful old man. Someone asks: What can truth or reality gain by all our practice? He uses truth and love interchangeably. He says: " Nothing whatsoever, of course. But it is in the nature of truth or love, cosmic consciousness, whatever you want to call it, to express itself, to affirm itself, to overcome difficulties. Once you've understood that the world is love in action, consciousness or love in action, you will look at it quite differently. But first your attitude to suffering must change. Suffering is primarily a call for attention, which itself is a movement of love. More than happiness, love wants growth, the widening and deepening of awareness and consciousness and being. Whatever prevents that becomes a cause of pain, and love does not shirk from pain. " The Eightfold Path for the Householder: Ten talks by Jack Kornfield, transcribed from audio tape http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mb62/errata/8path.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 The Natural Man is Wrong when He Says... " The fact that he just walked into the room means that the seed has started to sprout. And no matter if he tries to forget it and goes back and gets lost, sooner or later that will manifest...! " Take a Look around...Not all Seeds come to Fruition...that's the Real Fact of Life...not a Fanciful Notion from an Old Man that has Seen His Better Days...! ---------- Nisargadatta , " Hur " <Hur1@a...> wrote: > Thanks to " Dharma Troll " at alt.philosophy.zen forum, I found this > interesting account of a Buddhist teacher's experience with > Maharaj: > > Buddhist teacher Jack Kornfield describes his encounter with > Nisargadatta Maharaj in " The Eightfold Path for the Householder, " a > wonderful set of talks found online at: > http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mb62/errata/8path.htm > > There's something in us, in our nature, which compels us to > discover. I remember a very powerful moment with the old guru who I > studied with, Nisargadatta Maharaj, who taught the way of Nisarga > Yoga. " Nisarga " means natural. The basic translation of > his name was " Mr. Natural " . He was this 80-year old > cigarette-smoking man. He had a little cigarette stand. He was kind > of a combination like Krishnamurti and Fritz Perls. He would put you > on the hot seat when you came in and ask you about your spiritual > life. > > One day we were in a room about this big. People were coming in > and asking questions. Somebody came in and asked a question and was > a little bit dissatisfied and left. And another person raised their > hand and said, " Maharaj, what will happen to that person who came > and asked that question and left? Is it all over for them in this > life? They didn't stay here. You are a great guru, and they > weren't interested, and they went home. " And he twinkled at > that moment, he really lit up, and he said, " It's too late. Even > the fact that they put their foot in this room, even if they hadn't > asked the question, means that somewhere in there there's a seed of > really knowing who we are and what this life is about. Not what you > were taught in elementary school or what's on TV or the newspapers, > but a deep seed of knowing our true nature, that wants to discover; > it's like coming home. The fact that he just walked in the room means > that that seed has started to sprout. And no matter if he tries to > forget it and goes back and gets lost, sooner or later that will > manifest in awakening. > > ...I'll read you a passage from Nisargadatta Maharaj, the old > bidi wallah who I studied with in Bombay; wonderful old teacher. He > sold little Indian cigarettes on the street corner, and he was fully > enlightened somehow at the same time. He had these classes. He died > a couple of years ago. He was a wonderful old man. > > Someone asks: > > What can truth or reality gain by all our practice? > > He uses truth and love interchangeably. He says: > > " Nothing whatsoever, of course. But it is in the nature of > truth or love, cosmic consciousness, whatever you want to call it, to > express itself, to affirm itself, to overcome difficulties. Once > you've understood that the world is love in action, consciousness > or love in action, you will look at it quite differently. But first > your attitude to suffering must change. Suffering is primarily a > call for attention, which itself is a movement of love. More than > happiness, love wants growth, the widening and deepening of awareness > and consciousness and being. Whatever prevents that becomes a cause > of pain, and love does not shirk from pain. " > > The Eightfold Path for the Householder: > Ten talks by Jack Kornfield, > transcribed from audio tape > http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mb62/errata/8path.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 " David Walkowski " The Natural Man is Wrong when He Says... " The fact that he just walked into the room means that the seed has started to sprout. And no matter if he tries to forget it and goes back and gets lost, sooner or later that will manifest...! " Take a Look around...Not all Seeds come to Fruition...that's the Real Fact of Life...not a Fanciful Notion from an Old Man that has Seen His Better Days...! -------------- ~ Dear Dave Haven't you noticed: we're not done yet. Some seeds take many seasons to spout. Xan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Xan...When You Say... " Haven't You Noticed: We're Not Done Yet...Some Seeds Take Many Seasons to Sprout. " ...Yes...I've Noticed...Xan...Some Seeds Take Many Seasons to Sprout and Some Seeds Get Eaten by the Birds...! ---------- Nisargadatta , Xan <xanma@e...> wrote: > > " David Walkowski " > > The Natural Man is Wrong when He Says... " The fact that he just walked > into the room means that the seed has started to sprout. And no > matter if he tries to forget it and goes back and gets lost, sooner > or later that will manifest...! " > > Take a Look around...Not all Seeds come to Fruition...that's the Real > Fact of Life...not a Fanciful Notion from an Old Man that has Seen > His Better Days...! > -------------- > > ~ Dear Dave > > Haven't you noticed: we're not done yet. > Some seeds take many seasons to spout. > > Xan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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