A visitor asking Nisargadatta about paths, practices and devotion

[Guest guest]

As I Sit Here with the Notion or Experience of the " I Am " as the

Maharaj Suggests...this is What I Notice...the " I Am " comes and Goes

Like Everything Else " I AM " Aware of...this Means " I AM " not this " I

AM " " I AM " speaking about...!...Why is this...?

 

Nisargadatta, " Hur Guler " <Hur1@a...> wrote:

>

> Maharaj: For meditation you should sit with identification with the

> knowledge " I am " only and have confirmed to yourself that you are

not

> the body. You must dwell only in that knowledge " I am " --not merely

> the words " I am. " The design of your body does not signify your

> identification. And also, the name which is given to you or to the

> body is not your correct identity. The name which is imposed on

you,

> or the name which you have heard about you--you have accepted that

> name as yourself. Similarly, since you have seen your body, you

> think you are the body. So you have to give up both these

> identities. And the indwelling knowledge that you are, without

> words, that itself you are. In that identity, you must stabilize

> yourself. And then, whatever doubts you have, will be cleared by

> that very knowledge, and everything will be opened up in you...

>

> Visitor: My question is, is there a useful way for arriving at

moksha

> and are there particular signs for distinguishing which paths are

the

> best for us?

>

> M: You just listen to all this, whatever is being said here; follow

> that, abide in that and be that. Don't ask me about other paths.

> The path I am expounding, you listen to that, and abide in it...

>

> V: I am interested especially in practice, how to start it.

>

> M: Forget all about physical disciplines in this connection. I am

> telling you that the indwelling principle. " I am, " the knowledge

> that you are, you have to *be* that. Just be that. With that

> knowledge " I am, " hold on to the knowledge " I am. "

>

> V: It is difficult to abandon attachment to action; even in this

way

> it is not easy always to remember " I am, " the truth of the atman.

>

> M: You know that you are sitting here; you know you are, do you

> require any special effort to hold on to that " you are " ? You know

> you are; abide in that. The " I am " principle without words, that

> itself is the God of all Ishwaras.

>

> V: Is devotion not useful as an initial step?

>

> M: First step or second step, I have the first and final step at

the

> same time! The knowledge " I am, " without words, itself is the

> Ishwara. He, Ishwara, does not want another (Maya) agent or

> intermediary. Direct.

>

>

> Nisargadatta Maharaj

> " The Ultimate Medicine "

> Edited by Robert Powell

> Blue Dove Press

[Guest guest]

>As I Sit Here with the Notion or Experience of the " I Am " as the

>Maharaj Suggests...this is What I Notice...the " I Am " comes and Goes

>Like Everything Else " I AM " Aware of...this Means " I AM " not this " I

>AM " " I AM " speaking about...!...Why is this...?

 

Because I am not this " I am " I am speaking about.

[Guest guest]

Very Good...Dan...the Negation of the Negation...!

 

-- In Nisargadatta, Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

>

> >As I Sit Here with the Notion or Experience of the " I Am " as the

> >Maharaj Suggests...this is What I Notice...the " I Am " comes and

Goes

> >Like Everything Else " I AM " Aware of...this Means " I AM " not

this " I

> >AM " " I AM " speaking about...!...Why is this...?

>

> Because I am not this " I am " I am speaking about.